Gentoo Archives: gentoo-user

From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:02:26
Message-Id: 4E714031.1030702@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr by William Kenworthy
1 William Kenworthy wrote:
2 > On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 14:55 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
3 >> Who actually speaks on the list. As far as we know, maybe the only
4 >> Gentoo users disagreeing with the changes are the ones saying so on
5 >> the list. We don't know.
6 >>
7 > ok, as one of the silent ones on this topic so far, I'll chime in.
8 >
9 > Dont assume that the silent majority are in favour - they just might be
10 > on the other side. Perhaps others who disagree can say "me too" in
11 > order to support Dale who has been carrying the argument very well.
12 >
13 > > From my point of view, its looking like I will have to redesign a number
14 > of systems to take this into a/c, expose those systems to a proven
15 > higher risk of failure* all because of some corner cases that dont apply
16 > to me or the majority and perhaps the biggest point is that I have no
17 > choice in the matter, and possibly no choice about when it will happen.
18 >
19 > I wonder if going back to a static /dev is still possible. Server
20 > hardware doesnt change much once in service so its a once only hit to
21 > set it up.
22 >
23 > I dont mind that you want to use systemd and an initramfs - but I dont,
24 > and I dont want to be forced to go along with you.
25 >
26 > BillK
27 >
28 > * my biggest failure when doing sys admin tasks at a workplace involved
29 > initrd's - now I do not use them on gentoo (I dont have a choice on the
30 > ubuntu systems), and guess what ... Ive never had an initrd failure on
31 > gentoo since :) I know initramfs isnt initrd, but the exposure is the
32 > same.
33 >
34
35 The init system was one reason I left Mandriva too. To have to go back
36 to using one just makes me wonder if I should have stuck with it and all
37 the headaches. I really like Gentoo but it is going in the direction of
38 being like all the rest with the addition of compiling everything.
39
40 What will be next I wonder.
41
42 Dale
43
44 :-) :-)