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On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 14:55 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: |
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> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: |
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> >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Joost Roeleveld<joost@××××××××.org> |
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> >>> On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 06:33:01 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: |
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> >>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer<grimlog@×××.de> |
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> >>> wrote: |
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> Who actually speaks on the list. As far as we know, maybe the only |
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> Gentoo users disagreeing with the changes are the ones saying so on |
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> the list. We don't know. |
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ok, as one of the silent ones on this topic so far, I'll chime in. |
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Dont assume that the silent majority are in favour - they just might be |
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on the other side. Perhaps others who disagree can say "me too" in |
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order to support Dale who has been carrying the argument very well. |
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From my point of view, its looking like I will have to redesign a number |
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of systems to take this into a/c, expose those systems to a proven |
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higher risk of failure* all because of some corner cases that dont apply |
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to me or the majority and perhaps the biggest point is that I have no |
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choice in the matter, and possibly no choice about when it will happen. |
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I wonder if going back to a static /dev is still possible. Server |
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hardware doesnt change much once in service so its a once only hit to |
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set it up. |
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I dont mind that you want to use systemd and an initramfs - but I dont, |
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and I dont want to be forced to go along with you. |
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BillK |
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* my biggest failure when doing sys admin tasks at a workplace involved |
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initrd's - now I do not use them on gentoo (I dont have a choice on the |
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ubuntu systems), and guess what ... Ive never had an initrd failure on |
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gentoo since :) I know initramfs isnt initrd, but the exposure is the |
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same. |