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On 10/20/2013 06:02 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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> Am 20.10.2013 12:52, schrieb Daniel Campbell: |
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>> On 10/20/2013 04:24 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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>>> Am 20.10.2013 08:34, schrieb Daniel Campbell: |
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>>>> hm, Redhat is one of the companies investing the most money into linux |
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>>>> kernel, userland, graphics... if you 'don't trust them' you are pretty |
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>>>> much 20 years too late. |
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>>>> Investing money does not make them any more qualified or deserving of |
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>>>> making decisions. Red Hat is not the sole user of Linux. They should |
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>>>> consider themselves lucky that they are even able to profit from |
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>>>> something that's free. |
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>>>> |
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>>>> You're right, though. They've been around for a while, and I've never |
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>>>> trusted them or any other corporate interest in *nix. There's always a |
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>>>> catch when dealing with a business. |
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>>> 'have been around for a while' - replace that with 'are financing more |
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>>> core developers than anybody else'. |
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>> That's less reason to trust, not more. That's like citing the popularity |
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>> of something as proof of its quality, when oftentimes it's the exact |
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>> opposite that's true. |
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>> So they spend a lot of money hiring developers. The more important |
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>> question is what is their agenda? What do they tell those developers to |
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>> *make*? You don't hire people without a business plan in mind. |
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> without Redhat, there would be no linux. gnu software would be massively |
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> lacking and X would be without drivers. |
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> So calm down. |
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Linux was created and released in 1991, built with GNU tools. Red Hat |
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didn't come along until 1993. Linux and GNU would both still be here; |
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their quality without Red Hat involvement is speculative at best. |
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I maintain that motives matter more than money and that they (motives) |
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should continually be audited, especially when receiving contributions |
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from a company. They may already be; I don't know. |
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Re: drivers, do you expect me to believe Red Hat is responsible for |
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every X11 driver out there? How many of this list?[1] What of radeon and |
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nouveau? nvidia's own driver? xf86-input-wacom (and linuxwacom)[2]? I'm |
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sure Red Hat has contributed plenty to X11, but your statement is |
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flat-out false. |
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[1]: http://www.usinglinux.org/x11-drivers/ |
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[2]: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/ |