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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 12:59:02
Message-Id: 53AC18CD.7080707@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% by Dale
1 On 26/06/2014 13:20, Dale wrote:
2 > Alan McKinnon wrote:
3 >> My experiences aren't worth much in this case, what I had to deal with
4 >> was data center setups where - the power has never gone off for 6
5 >> years - the drives never spin down and just keep on turning year after
6 >> year - the servers were the nice big ones Dell makes with awesome
7 >> cooling - the data center feels like a fridge and the ambient temp
8 >> never varies more than 1 deg - the server power supplies are seriously
9 >> high grade, the 5V and 12V out of them are solid and do not fluctuate
10 >> at all Add all this up and it's an almost perfect environment for
11 >> drives to last a long time. You don't have that, not even close. I
12 >> have only 1 little bit of anecdotal data: my nas at home has 4 x 3T WD
13 >> Green drives in it, going on almost 2 years now. My kids hammer the
14 >> blazes out of that thing, and ZFS scrubs keep it real busy when the
15 >> kids don't. And those drives just keep on turning and turning and
16 >> turning, I didn't do anything special. I put it down to statistics -
17 >> no-one makes bad drives (or cars) these days and I haven't pulled the
18 >> unlucky card yet. I dunno, go figure
19 >
20 > Well, it does make good points tho. I keep my room here pretty cool.
21 > It's not as cool as your data center but I have a window A/C and my own
22 > heater. I don't mind it being a little cool in the winter but don't
23 > like it warm in the summer either. The cooler the better.
24 >
25 > I also have the Cooler Master HAF-932 case with those really nice large
26 > fans. The hard drives are right in front of the front intake fan. I
27 > have a power supply that is really to big for what I have running. I
28 > can't recall the brand and wattage just that it doesn't pull near as
29 > much power as I thought it would. It pulls less than half what my older
30 > and much slower puter pulled. Also, I rarely shut this thing down. I
31 > did the other night to unplug/re-plug all the cables but other than
32 > that, it is usually because I have lost power from the mains.
33 >
34 > So, keep them cool, good clean power and leave them running when ya
35 > can. Sounds like a plan. ;-)
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37
38 You got it :-)
39
40 hard drives are mechanical objects, not electronic ones, and they fail
41 for mechanical reasons. Motors fail, bearings seize, spindle arms wear
42 out. Transforming magnetic blobs on the platter into binary bits is very
43 reliable, as long as the head is in exactly the place it is supposed to
44 be. So the enemies of disks are environmental;
45
46 - temperature and humidity changes
47 - frequent spin ups and spin downs
48 - dust
49 - power dips/fluctuations and brown-outs
50 - being dropped, knocked and generally ubused
51
52 etc, etc, etc
53
54 Take care of the environmental factors, and statistics fall in your
55 favour making the odds good you'll get the life you expect
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60 --
61 Alan McKinnon
62 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% Daniel Frey <djqfrey@×××××.com>