Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!

[Mick]

On Wednesday 19 Apr 2017 23:23:41 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 19/04/2017 16:57, Mick wrote:
> > OK, I know life moves on, but this move has been a retrograde step for me.
> >  My konqueror:5 recently updated seems to have a number of problems and
> > <aheam!> features I am not happy with.  Grateful for any pointers to
> > address these.  In no particular order.
> >
> > 1. The Bookmarks Toolbar will *always* show up when launching Konqueror.
> > I
> > deselect Settings/Toolbars Shown/Bookmark Toolbar and relaunch the
> > application, only to find out my deselection will not stick.
> >
> > 2. The menu shows no icons, only text; buttons like open new tab/close
> > current tab show no icons, making difficult to guess.
> >
> > 3. When used as a file manager Konqueror will only open directories or
> > files if I double click on them.  I have set up in systemsettings5
> > Hardware/Input Devices/Mouse/Single click to open files and folders.
> > Konqueror ignores it.
> >
> > 4. All my years of Bookmarks of Konqueror:4 gone.  I had to import them
> > manually.
> >
> > 5. Network places, gone.
> >
> > 6. Left hand Panels with Places/Devices/Folders ain't thaa'r.
> >
> > 7. Konqueror Introduction page, no icons; unless I hover over them,
> > hyperlinked titles shown in dark grey over a blue background.  I know my
> > eye sight is not as good as it used to be, but this is really akin to
> > usability sabotage.
> >
> > The are probably more problems I have not captured above, but my
> > experience of konqueror:5 is that of crippleware.  I don't know if this
> > has anything to do with it, I am not running konqueror on a full plasma
> > desktop, but as a stand alone application.  Have you observed similar?
>
> Halfway through the KDE-4 lifecycle it became known that konqueror then
> was essentially without a maintainer in the KDE project. Gut feels tells
> me that has likely not changed and the minimum work was done to get it
> to build under KDE-5. Just gut feel.
>
> I gave up on konqueror as a browser during KDE-3 and switched to Dolphin
> as file manager in KDE-4. Have you considered that?

Konqueror with khtml as the rendering engine gives a poor browsing experience 
with most modern websites.  However, switching the rendering engine to webkit 
fixes this.


> Your points 2, 3, 5 & 6 all work in Dolphin familiarly to old Konqueror.

They did under konqueror:4, but stopped for me with konqueror:5.  Also noticed 
since my last post that Kget is not there, so downloads do not notify me they 
have completed, and other main menu selections do not stick either between 
sessions.


> I found many things Dolphin couldn't do that don't matter, like snazzy
> file views of directories that visually show how big sub-dirs and files
> are. I can live without that.

I liked that too.  :-(


> The only irritation that mattered was not
> being able to repeatedly split panes in half vertically or horizontally;
> Dolphin gives you just two panes, side by side. So I started opening
> more tabs to get more panes :-)

Yes, this is one of my dolphin annoyances too.  I just don't understand KDE 
devs.  They develop an application just right and then go break it as if to 
piss us all off.  :-@

As already mentioned by Daniel, it may be that the full Plasma desktop has to 
be both installed *and* running for all these features to be working as 
intended.
-- 
Regards,
Mick