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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] LibreOffice 3.4.4: required HDD space
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 14:11:42
Message-Id: 20111126161026.1e10457d@rohan.example.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] LibreOffice 3.4.4: required HDD space by James Broadhead
1 On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:49:07 +0000
2 James Broadhead <jamesbroadhead@×××××.com> wrote:
3
4 > On 20 November 2011 20:09, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
5 > wrote:
6 > > On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:58:22 +0000
7 > > James Broadhead <jamesbroadhead@×××××.com> wrote:
8 > >> Seeing as the ebuild is 'aware' of CFLAGS and USE, it would be nice
9 > >> if it would use that information (roughly) to determine how much
10 > >> space to check for.
11 > >>
12 > >> 4-9GiB is a pretty wide range.
13 > >
14 > > A slight mis-measurement on how much space a specific setup needs
15 > > results in a failed build, or a build that won't start or any
16 > > amount of other craziness.
17 > >
18 > > Read the maintainer's blog sometime (it's on the gentoo.org
19 > > frontpage) to get a sense of what it takes to maintain that bitch
20 > > of a project. Something as simple as figuring out what packages
21 > > LibreOffice bundles and making the ebuild use the system one
22 > > instead is a mammoth task. Don't forget that every little tweak is
23 > > 2 hours of building just to test if it builds. Then one has to test
24 > > if it works....
25 > >
26 > > I'm not surprised the OOo and LibreOffice ebuilds take the easy
27 > > route - figure out by enabling everything the maximum amount of
28 > > free space OOo ould possibly need to build, then insist the build
29 > > host has at least that much free. Heck, I'd do exactly the same.
30 >
31 > I read the blogs, and I'm well aware of the difficulties. I suppose
32 > I'm pretty used to running my laptop pretty close to the wire
33 > space-wise, and so an ebuild asking for 9GiB when it only requires
34 > 5GiB would cause me to have to shuffle a lot of things around to no
35 > good end.
36 >
37 > Really though, it would be replacing one (inaccurate, but
38 > conservative) estimate with two such estimates.
39
40 Where are you getting your information from?
41
42 9G is what the dev reckons is the maximum. This other figure of 4G -
43 what is that? The amount needed by some arb combination on some arb
44 user's machine? That's not a good enough criteria.
45
46 It's not really the maximum plus one well-defined other. It's is the
47 maximum plus every other possible combination (there is no defined
48 minimal).
49
50 If it's an issue for you, the solution is simple - keep a copy of the
51 ebuild in your local overlay and edit the space requirements. Keep it up
52 to date and in-sync with the ebuild in the main tree. It means you get
53 to a little extra work, but is preferable to the dev doing a lot of
54 extra work
55
56 >
57 > Still, nothing much to stress about.
58 >
59
60
61
62 --
63 Alan McKinnnon
64 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com

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