Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Iain Buchanan]

On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 17:58 -0500, Rodrigo Lazo wrote:
> "Andrey Falko" <ma3oxuct@×××××.com> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
> > <buanzo@××××××××××.ar> wrote:
> >>
> >> Rodrigo Lazo wrote:
> >>  | Seems like Gentoo brainstorm won't happen
> >>  |
> >>  | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212527
> >>
> >>  Doesn't sound like a "Gentoo as a whole" answer to me. The
> community is Gentoo. Gentoo is the community.
> >>
> >>  I've re-opened the bug. All people that think this is necessary,
> or not [of course], GO THERE AND
> >>  MAKE A COMMENT.

I don't necessarily think a whole lot of "me too's" will help.

> > I am of the opinion that opening a bug is not the right way to go
> > about this. First, it is not critical. And second someone who really
> > wants the brainstorm should code  up the infrastructure and then maybe
> > open a bug to get their work into Gentoo.
>
> As I commented on the bug report... all the work need would be port
> the ubuntu's app into Gentoo's look and feel. As the idea is to make
> the developers and the users work together on this "brainstorm" is
> important to convince the developers that it will payoff.
>
> As a side note, bugzilla is not only for "bugs" but also for
> enhancement proposals.

I think that if you want to carry the idea a bit further (and don't give
up just because the bug was closed) that you should solicit some help
first - perhaps from gentoo-user, gentoo-dev and the forums.

Secondly get a bit of a specification together that describes exactly
what and why, covers some technical questions, and maybe the
implementation.

Then take it back to gentoo-dev and say "here's the idea, here's the
details, here's how it can work".  Then you may get it happening for
real.  Remember whatever you want form the brainstorm (eg. popular
features implemented) won't happen if the developers feel like it's full
of demands and unreasonable expectations.

I can tell you now some will like it and some won't from the start.
However, if only a few devs frequently monitor it at the start, it will
still be a good indication of the communities feeling.  There will be
lots of silent watchers.  Done right I think it could be very useful.

I especially like how a lot of brainstorm ideas about brainstorm itself
have already been implemented, making the tool better by using the tool!
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/category/11

cya,
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Iain Buchanan <iaindb at netspace dot net dot au>

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