Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Chris Brennan]

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Iain Buchanan wrote:
| On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 17:58 -0500, Rodrigo Lazo wrote:
|> "Andrey Falko" <ma3oxuct@×××××.com> writes:
|>
|>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
|>> <buanzo@××××××××××.ar> wrote:
|>>> Rodrigo Lazo wrote:
|>>>  | Seems like Gentoo brainstorm won't happen
|>>>  |
|>>>  | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212527
|>>>
|>>>  Doesn't sound like a "Gentoo as a whole" answer to me. The
|> community is Gentoo. Gentoo is the community.
|>>>  I've re-opened the bug. All people that think this is necessary,
|> or not [of course], GO THERE AND
|>>>  MAKE A COMMENT.
|
| I don't necessarily think a whole lot of "me too's" will help.
|
|>> I am of the opinion that opening a bug is not the right way to go
|>> about this. First, it is not critical. And second someone who really
|>> wants the brainstorm should code  up the infrastructure and then maybe
|>> open a bug to get their work into Gentoo.
|> As I commented on the bug report... all the work need would be port
|> the ubuntu's app into Gentoo's look and feel. As the idea is to make
|> the developers and the users work together on this "brainstorm" is
|> important to convince the developers that it will payoff.
|>
|> As a side note, bugzilla is not only for "bugs" but also for
|> enhancement proposals.
|
| I think that if you want to carry the idea a bit further (and don't give
| up just because the bug was closed) that you should solicit some help
| first - perhaps from gentoo-user, gentoo-dev and the forums.
|
| Secondly get a bit of a specification together that describes exactly
| what and why, covers some technical questions, and maybe the
| implementation.
|
| Then take it back to gentoo-dev and say "here's the idea, here's the
| details, here's how it can work".  Then you may get it happening for
| real.  Remember whatever you want form the brainstorm (eg. popular
| features implemented) won't happen if the developers feel like it's full
| of demands and unreasonable expectations.
|
| I can tell you now some will like it and some won't from the start.
| However, if only a few devs frequently monitor it at the start, it will
| still be a good indication of the communities feeling.  There will be
| lots of silent watchers.  Done right I think it could be very useful.
|
| I especially like how a lot of brainstorm ideas about brainstorm itself
| have already been implemented, making the tool better by using the tool!
| http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/category/11
|
| cya,


One other thing that may be good, is someone to donate resources if need
be to get the project off the ground. Us doing all the technical
footwork, means very little if there is no practical application in
place, something tangible to look at and evaluate.

If we're going to commit to this, then we may as well go as far as we
can with it, till it looks so impressive and awe-inspiring that we can't
help but be flocked to, like gentoo-wiki and the forums. When I help new
users into the world of Linux and Gentoo, I tell them, there are three
things you should book mark, and visit frequently, gentoo.com,
gentoo-wiki.com and forums.gentoo.org, why shouldn't this be any different.

Chris
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