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On 28/03/2013 15:16, Michael Mol wrote: |
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> On 03/28/2013 03:51 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: |
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>> On Thu, March 28, 2013 07:59, Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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>>> On 28/03/2013 04:56, Michael Mol wrote: |
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>>>> On 03/27/2013 05:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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>>>>> On 27/03/2013 22:41, Michael Mol wrote: |
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>>>>>> The case for systemd is twofold: |
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>>>>> ... |
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>>>>>> 2) Reduce the amount of CPU and RAM consumed when you're talking about |
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>>>>>> booting tens of thousands of instances simultaneously across your |
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>>>>>> entire |
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>>>>>> infrastructure, or when your server instance might be spun up and down |
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>>>>>> six times over the course of a single day. |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> I seems to me that this is rather a niche quite-specialized case |
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>>>>> (albeit |
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>>>>> a rather large instance of a niche case). In which case it would be |
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>>>>> better implemented as Redhat MagicSauce for their cloud environment |
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>>>>> where it would be exactly tuned to that case's need. |
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>>>> But it's a great deal cheaper to convince volunteers and package |
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>>>> maintainers to put in the time to build the necessary service files of |
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>>>> their own accord. Add in the complexity of parallel boot, and you can |
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>>>> induce upstream to fix their own race-driven bugs rather than have to |
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>>>> pay for that development directly. |
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>>> |
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>>> I don't follow the thought stream here Michael. |
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>>> It feels like there's a word or a sentence missing (it's just not |
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>>> hanging together) |
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>> Alan, I think what Michael is trying to say is that by getting other |
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>> distros to package systemd, other distros will help RedHat to find and fix |
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>> the problems systemd is causing. |
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> Exactly this. |
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Ah, a definition of "getting" that I was heretofore unfamiliar with. |
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Obviously "getting" doesn't mean what I think it means, it means |
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"forcing without giving the other party much of a choice in the matter |
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by ripping out essential infrastructure and replacing it with something |
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tuned to RedHat, and only RedHat's, needs." |
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Ok, I got it now. Thanks for clearing that up. |
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Alan McKinnon |
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