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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev blocks systemd etc
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:16:55
Message-Id: 515442B5.8020507@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev blocks systemd etc by "J. Roeleveld"
1 On 03/28/2013 03:51 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
2 > On Thu, March 28, 2013 07:59, Alan McKinnon wrote:
3 >> On 28/03/2013 04:56, Michael Mol wrote:
4 >>> On 03/27/2013 05:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
5 >>>> On 27/03/2013 22:41, Michael Mol wrote:
6 >>>>> The case for systemd is twofold:
7 >>>>
8 >>>> ...
9 >>>>
10 >>>>> 2) Reduce the amount of CPU and RAM consumed when you're talking about
11 >>>>> booting tens of thousands of instances simultaneously across your
12 >>>>> entire
13 >>>>> infrastructure, or when your server instance might be spun up and down
14 >>>>> six times over the course of a single day.
15 >>>>
16 >>>> I seems to me that this is rather a niche quite-specialized case
17 >>>> (albeit
18 >>>> a rather large instance of a niche case). In which case it would be
19 >>>> better implemented as Redhat MagicSauce for their cloud environment
20 >>>> where it would be exactly tuned to that case's need.
21 >>>
22 >>> But it's a great deal cheaper to convince volunteers and package
23 >>> maintainers to put in the time to build the necessary service files of
24 >>> their own accord. Add in the complexity of parallel boot, and you can
25 >>> induce upstream to fix their own race-driven bugs rather than have to
26 >>> pay for that development directly.
27 >>>
28 >>
29 >> I don't follow the thought stream here Michael.
30 >> It feels like there's a word or a sentence missing (it's just not
31 >> hanging together)
32 >
33 > Alan, I think what Michael is trying to say is that by getting other
34 > distros to package systemd, other distros will help RedHat to find and fix
35 > the problems systemd is causing.
36
37 Exactly this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev blocks systemd etc Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>