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From: "J. Roeleveld" <joost@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev blocks systemd etc
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:52:08
Message-Id: ca54e127d52de153c9d9463da266a860.squirrel@www.antarean.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev blocks systemd etc by Alan McKinnon
1 On Thu, March 28, 2013 07:59, Alan McKinnon wrote:
2 > On 28/03/2013 04:56, Michael Mol wrote:
3 >> On 03/27/2013 05:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
4 >>> On 27/03/2013 22:41, Michael Mol wrote:
5 >>>> The case for systemd is twofold:
6 >>>
7 >>> ...
8 >>>
9 >>>> 2) Reduce the amount of CPU and RAM consumed when you're talking about
10 >>>> booting tens of thousands of instances simultaneously across your
11 >>>> entire
12 >>>> infrastructure, or when your server instance might be spun up and down
13 >>>> six times over the course of a single day.
14 >>>
15 >>> I seems to me that this is rather a niche quite-specialized case
16 >>> (albeit
17 >>> a rather large instance of a niche case). In which case it would be
18 >>> better implemented as Redhat MagicSauce for their cloud environment
19 >>> where it would be exactly tuned to that case's need.
20 >>
21 >> But it's a great deal cheaper to convince volunteers and package
22 >> maintainers to put in the time to build the necessary service files of
23 >> their own accord. Add in the complexity of parallel boot, and you can
24 >> induce upstream to fix their own race-driven bugs rather than have to
25 >> pay for that development directly.
26 >>
27 >
28 > I don't follow the thought stream here Michael.
29 > It feels like there's a word or a sentence missing (it's just not
30 > hanging together)
31
32 Alan, I think what Michael is trying to say is that by getting other
33 distros to package systemd, other distros will help RedHat to find and fix
34 the problems systemd is causing.
35
36 --
37 Joost

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