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From: Francisco Ares <frares@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user <gentoo-user@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] is anyone using Nouveau graphics driver ?
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 18:55:46
Message-Id: CAHH9eM5c10eN+t9AuVRH9E7NHB+CmHCAZ41+EwG7HwP-5SG0hg@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] is anyone using Nouveau graphics driver ? by "Andrey F."
1 Em seg, 23 de jul de 2018 às 11:47, Andrey F. <ma3oxuct@×××××.com> escreveu:
2
3 > My experience is the same. Things are super fast with Nouveau, but the
4 > random system-wide lock ups were unbearable. I'm a KDE plasma user as well.
5 > My last experience was about 6 months ago.
6 >
7 > I wonder if there is anything we can do to help solve the lockup issues in
8 > the long run with Nouveau.
9 >
10 > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 04:20 Davyd McColl <davydm@×××××.com> wrote:
11 >
12 >> For what it's worth, my experience with Nouveau has been dismal.
13 >>
14 >> I use KDE plasma, which runs everything via accelerated graphics and I
15 >> would encounter system-wide lockups within 2 hours, often much closer to
16 >> within 10 minutes.
17 >> Nouveau has better terminal support though, supporting the higher
18 >> resolutions that the proprietary driver can't be bothered to support. So
19 >> if
20 >> you have a vt-only use-case, it's a win. But otherwise, I'm very wary.
21 >> Granted, the last time I tried was about a year ago, but the troubles I
22 >> had
23 >> been experiencing were common with other users for long before that.
24 >>
25 >> You could give it a try and see.
26 >>
27 >> As for usage, iirc, if it's enabled in your kernel config, it's loaded by
28 >> default, even if the proprietary drivers are installed. I blacklisted the
29 >> Nouveau module to get the proprietary one loaded (so that I could switch
30 >> back after a kernel update to see if it worked properly then). Again,
31 >> things may have changed from when I last tried, but I think you should be
32 >> able to enable, build and reboot to have it loaded already (obviously,
33 >> you
34 >> could rmmod and modprobe if the idea of a reboot doesn't sit well)
35 >>
36 >> -d
37 >>
38 >>
39 >> On July 23, 2018 12:17:53 Philip Webb <purslow@××××××××.net> wrote:
40 >>
41 >> > Among my efforts to get scanning working again with Gentoo,
42 >> > I've encountered another problem in a different area.
43 >> > Recently, I sent a message to this list re Nvidia-drivers
44 >> > -- that 396.24-r1 wouldn't start with my 4.14.52 kernel,
45 >> > so I started using 390.67 -- & I've now discovered that there's a
46 >> problem
47 >> > with any version of Nvidia & my previous 4.9.16 & 4.2.0-r1 kernels.
48 >> >
49 >> > Might I be better off, if I used Nouveau instead ?
50 >> > It is what Mint 17 & 19 seem to use, so must be fairly stable.
51 >> > So a few questions :
52 >> >
53 >> > (1) What are people's experiences with Nouveau ?
54 >> > -- does it work easily with various kernels ?
55 >> > -- does it manage graphics stably & reliably ?
56 >> > -- I don't do much with video (a few newsreels) & don't use sound.
57 >> >
58 >> > (2) If I install it, how do I switch between Nouveau & Nvidia ?
59 >> >
60 >> > (3) Sadly, I didn't make a Quickpkg of the Nvidia version I was using
61 >> > when my scanner was working with Gentoo (last time 180626).
62 >> > I have the distfiles, but not the ebuilds :
63 >> > is there anywhere I can find ebuilds for Nvidia-Drivers 390.42 390.48 ?
64 >> >
65 >> > --
66 >> > ========================,,============================================
67 >> > SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb
68 >> > ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto
69 >> > TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
70 >> >
71 >> >
72 >>
73 >>
74 >>
75 >>
76 Here goes my "me too". Nouveau drivers causing locks in the graphics
77 environment, locking also the keyboard, disallowing me to switch to a
78 common non-graphic terminal to try something. I had to install a ssh
79 client app in my smart phone so I could try to unlock the system (with no
80 success) and, at least, shut it down gracefully.
81
82 I'm also a KDE user. I've noticed more locks while using "chromium", but
83 this might have been a coincidence.
84
85 Best Regards,
86 Francisco