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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 02:07:26
Message-Id: 53AB804E.8010405@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% by Rich Freeman
1 Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >> What I really need to do, set up a RAID or some other backup method so
4 >> that even if this happens again, I don't risk losing anything. Then
5 >> again, that will take time as well. Also takes money.
6 > Keep in mind that RAID is more about speed of recovery and protects
7 > against the failure mode of total drive failure, which is a fairly
8 > common failure mode. A hard drive failure on a RAID involves no
9 > unplanned downtime, and a need for some short planned downtime to
10 > replace the drive.
11 >
12 > Backup protects against a lot more, but typically results in a
13 > recovery that takes hours, and when the drive goes you're down without
14 > warning.
15
16 True. My issue with RAID is that it is yet another thing I have to
17 maintain. I started using lvm and so far, it has been low maintenance
18 and has made changing things MUCH easier when I do need to move things
19 around a bit. It is a time saver to be more accurate. RAID also leaves
20 me open to theft, house fire and such too. At the moment, I think, like
21 you, having a external drive that I keep somewhere else is the safest
22 method. Thing is, getting a drive big enough to do this. Buying this
23 drive put a dent in my debt. That said, I really need to buy another
24 drive if this old one turns out to be bad and set up some sort of backup
25 plan. If it turns out to be OK somehow, then I may have a solution,
26 maybe.
27
28 While I don't want to lose anything, my camera pics is the most
29 important to keep. That's why I rotate backups and keep one set outside
30 the house. I would rather not lose my videos and could get most of them
31 back but it won't be easy for sure.
32
33
34 >> Most of that is recorded TV shows, movies etc. I also have some pics I
35 >> took with my camera that can't be replaced. Those I backup to DVDs
36 >> pretty regular. I use kbackup to tarball them and then burn them to
37 >> DVDs. It works. One set is outside the home in case of fire. The
38 >> biggest thing is some of those shows would be hard to get again plus the
39 >> effort to get them as well.
40 > So, stuff like photos I backup to the cloud, or to offsite media
41 > (generally I favor the cloud for active stuff, and offsite media for
42 > stuff I'm done with). Ditto for things like /etc, mysql, documents,
43 > email, and other small but important things.
44 >
45 > For stuff like MythTV recordings I used to just rely on RAID -
46 > recognizing that there was a very real possibility that I could lose
47 > them all. Now I also do a backup to a drive that is normally left
48 > unmounted, which isn't great, but since I moved to btrfs I wanted
49 > something on ext4 that had daily rsnapshots. Again, I'm willing to
50 > risk losing this stuff.
51 >
52 > Rich
53 >
54 >
55
56 I don't have anything on the cloud to backup too. That would likely be
57 a good idea but I can't afford anything pricey, which is why I hadn't
58 bought a backup drive before now either. Plus, something I'd prefer to
59 keep under my thumb. Heck, some things here are encrypted, bank info
60 and such. Also, while I have DSL, it ain't real speedy. Backing up
61 that much data over my connection could take a while, like days, maybe
62 even a week or more.
63
64 I really do need a plan that I can manage to put in place tho. Murphy's
65 law and all. :-D
66
67 Dale
68
69 :-) :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>