Gentoo Archives: gentoo-user

From: hw <hw@×××××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:23:43
Message-Id: 57B2F7B3.5010108@gc-24.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages by Neil Bothwick
1 Neil Bothwick schrieb:
2 > On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 16:08:34 +0200, hw wrote:
3 >
4 >> infrequently update Gentoo because I´m *always* running into problems
5 >> like this.
6 >
7 > Every time, or is that just hyperbole?
8
9 every time
10
11 >> 'Infrequently' means about every 3 months at home, and not
12 >> since, IIRC, 2015-02 here at work. The last update at home got stalled
13 >> because perl cannot be updated, and I haven´t had the time to look into
14 >> that to finish it.
15 >
16 > Problems like this are usually resolved quickly. Syncing and updating a
17 > couple of days later would probably have sorted it.
18
19 That´s what I was hoping, but the problem remained. I can´t try it now
20 because I don´t have internet at home atm.
21
22 >> The other reason is that it takes time to update the kernel when a new
23 >> one comes along, so updating like every week is not feasible. And I
24 >> don´t want to reboot all the time.
25 >
26 > You don't need to boot into every new kernel that hits portage. As long
27 > as your current kernel has no security issues you can stick with it.
28 > Plenty of people use Gentoo with only the LTS kernels.
29
30 Probably, yes, but who knows if everything works fine with an older kernel?
31 New versions of some software might require a sufficiently recent kernel.
32
33 >> Besides, I don´t want to update too frequently because there may issues
34 >> with new versions of software.
35 >
36 > If you use the stable arch, you don't get brand new versions. Packages
37 > are normally a month old before they hit stable.
38
39 That doesn´t mean that things might stop working, and besides replacing the
40 software itself, there might be some updating procedure that needs to be
41 followed.
42
43 >> If you say that you need to update more frequently than every 3 months
44 >> for not to have problems with the update process itself, I can only
45 >> conclude that Gentoo is entirely unsuited for servers --- and for home
46 >> use as well other than for test machines perhaps.
47 >
48 > It may be more a case of Gentoo being unsuited for you, your
49 > expectations and your preferred way of working. In fact, any rolling
50 > release distros sounds like it won't be right for you.
51
52 Who can afford to run into problems every time they update when they need
53 to keep things working? Problems with the very update process itself is
54 something you shouldn´t have to expect at all.

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>