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On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: |
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> On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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> > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: |
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> >> On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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> >>> On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote: |
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> >>>> Hello list, |
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> >>>> when I synced my portage tree today, I saw that kmail-4.4.0 needs |
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> >>>> kdelibs compiled with USE="semantic-desktop" and cannot be told to not |
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> >>>> use it. But I do not like the idea of semantic desktop and I will not |
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> >>>> install it. |
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> >>> |
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> >>> you don't even now what that is. Right? |
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> >>> |
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> >>> You just don't use 'it' and you are fine. Btw, I am sure you already |
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> >>> have it installed with soprano. |
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> >> My understanding is the semantic-desktop is just the latest incarnation |
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> >> of kde's clone of google desktop search which just wastes CPU, memory, |
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> >> and disk space. Personally I don't see the need for this technology as |
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> >> I'm perfectly happy waiting a few seconds on "find" every few months. |
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> > your understanding is wrong. Completely wrong. Seriously it hurts. |
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> > start here: |
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> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEPOMUK_(framework) |
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> > and then proceed with the links. |
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> > google-desktop is something completley different (and something that can |
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> > be replaced with find, locate and grep). |
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> OK, after reading several articles from the given starting point, I now |
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> understand why semantic-desktop wastes so much cpu, memory, and storage |
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> (really, if you organize your data properly who cares about a file's |
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> relationship to an email?). |
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because to 'organize it properly' you would need a huge directory tree plus |
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symlinks plus explaining notes to even simulate a small token of the stuff |
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'semantic desktop' can do for you.. |
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> Also didn't read anything even hinting at |
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> security awareness of the technology which is really scary (imagine an |
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> attack that get's access to the RDFs, |
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those RDFs are in your home directory. If someone can read your home you are |
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screwed anyway. |
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> it'd tell the attacker exactly which |
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> additional files to target). |
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oh yes, reading stuff about emails tells him to read more emails. That is |
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scary. |
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> And since I don't use/like dolphin, I'll |
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> stick with my original opinion that the semantic-desktop should be totally |
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> disabled/uninstalled. |
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and you can do that. Oh wow. That useflag only turns on soprano. Nothing else. |
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Which means nothing. You are not forced to use that stuff. |
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> IMO, mandatory semantic-desktop is a very good reason to find another |
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> desktop manager (even after being my primary desktop for 7 years). |
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yeah good luck with that. Because gnome is moving in that direction too. |
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Seriously guys, you start sounding like luddites. Is new, must be bad. |
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