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From: Joshua D Doll <joshua.doll@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:30:36
Message-Id: 498B6886.1070207@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? by Paul Hartman
1 Paul Hartman wrote:
2 > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Joshua D Doll <joshua.doll@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >
4 >> Paul Hartman wrote:
5 >>
6 >>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com> wrote:
7 >>>
8 >>>
9 >>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Joshua D Doll <joshua.doll@×××××.com>
10 >>>> wrote:
11 >>>>
12 >>>>
13 >>>>
14 >>>>> I think the Handbook and other Official gentoo docs are well and
15 >>>>> written. I
16 >>>>> feel they are so well written and informative that a new user could read
17 >>>>> and
18 >>>>> follow what the doc is trying to convey.
19 >>>>>
20 >>>>>
21 >>>>> --Joshua Doll
22 >>>>>
23 >>>>>
24 >>>> I agree. Everything except the grub part. It's well written but it
25 >>>> requires more knowledge about the actual hardware than the rest of it,
26 >>>> especially if you do it wrong and have to recover.
27 >>>>
28 >>>>
29 >>> I helped my brother install Ubuntu and the lack of control over grub
30 >>> was frustrating. It just did what it wanted to do without asking
31 >>> (which was install grub onto the wrong drive with the wrong drive
32 >>> numbers, because the BIOS boot order did not match Ubuntu's detected
33 >>> drive order). If that drive had been part of a RAID or had some
34 >>> important metadata in the boot sector, it could have been a disaster.
35 >>>
36 >>> No distro is perfect. Gentoo is perfect for me, though :)
37 >>>
38 >>>
39 >>>
40 >>>
41 >> I think you mean to say no boot loader is perfect. ;-)
42 >>
43 >> --Joshua Doll
44 >>
45 >>
46 >>
47 >
48 > The ubuntu installer did not tell me which drive it was installing the
49 > boot loader onto, nor did it give me a choice -- it chose the one it
50 > thought was appropriate (and it was wrong).
51 >
52 > If you google for ubuntu grub sata ide you can see it happens to
53 > nearly everyone who has a mixture of IDE and SATA drives where they
54 > boot from IDE but linux gives sda to sata and sdc to IDE or whatever.
55 >
56 >
57 >
58 Actually the kernel has assigned most hdd, etc. some form of sd* for
59 awhile now. The only thing that is labeled different, that I've seen in
60 awhile is my dvd burner. Anyways getting to my statement I was being
61 facetious. I can't think of a single piece of software that is perfect,
62 except for maybe "hello, world!", but that's not very useful.
63
64
65 --Joshua Doll