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From: Bill Kenworthy <billk@×××××××××.au>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation failure
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:00:02
Message-Id: 55D3AA00.3040701@iinet.net.au
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: installation failure by "»Q«"
1 On 18/08/15 02:58, »Q« wrote:
2 > On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:46:44 +0200
3 > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
4 >
5 >> Er, no. You don't. You really, really REALLY don't want to go Stage
6 >> 1 :-)
7 >>
8 >> My second install was a stage 1, way back in the day when the stage 3s
9 >> weren't fully usable out of the box yet. My first was a stage 2 (fully
10 >> documented back then) and for the second one I decided to be brave.
11 >>
12 >> I did learn something, but it really wasn't worth the effort.
13 >
14 > For my second or third install I also used a stage 2, and I completely
15 > agree with you.
16 >
17 >
18 >
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20 sort of ... conditions were different
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22 "in the beginning" a stage 1 was all there was. We used to sneer at
23 those too soft to do it hard core :)
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25 When viable stage 3's became available, the handbook gradually moved to
26 recommending a stage 3 then mandating it.
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28 In about 2000/2001 when I first started with gentoo (on a 486, moved
29 from Redhat 4.0 from memory, took a whole week to download the sources
30 via dialup, and 2 days to build the basic stage 3). The problem was
31 that the build process was full of holes - there is a reason modern
32 portage/emerge is as complicated as it is. A full stage one was
33 consistent. After a few months of use inconsistencies would creep in
34 and an emerge world -e became necessary to restore smooth functioning.
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36 Have not had to do that for a couple of years now ... don't miss it :)
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40 BillK