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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:07:49
Message-Id: 200911151700.52717.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing by "Stefan G. Weichinger"
1 On Sunday 15 November 2009 15:54:39 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
2 > Alan McKinnon schrieb:
3 > >> Sometimes my gnome-session (2.28) works for hours, sometimes for
4 > >> minutes.
5 > >
6 > > What happens when X crashes? Does the X session go away? Is there an
7 > > error message? Or does it just hang?
8 >
9 > The whole X-session restarts, as if I do "xdm restart" or
10 > "ctrl-alt-backspace". I get back to the login-prompt of gdm.
11 >
12 > No error message, I also browsed the xorg-logs, dmesg, /var/log/messages
13 > ... nothing related as far as I understand.
14 >
15 > > Your symptoms as described are random, I find far more often than not
16 > > that is hardware, usually the power supply, ram and video card (in that
17 > > order)
18 > >
19 > > Give your hardware a thorough stress test, then only start playing with
20 > > downgrades
21 >
22 > Hmm, I don't know ... why should a hardware-problem only shoot X11 ... ?
23 > It should crash then also when I dualboot windows xp for gaming (it does
24 > not crash there even under quite high gaming load).
25 >
26 > OK, RAM might do that, I had a customers pc which rebooted (! reboot,
27 > not only kicking off one app) here and then because of defective RAM.
28 >
29 > I start some memtest while having my coffee just to check that out for a
30 > start.
31 >
32 > But I really assume some other reason, as I only recently went up to
33 > ~amd64 ... for me it is much more likely that maybe the step up to
34 > xorg-server 1.7.x or something related might be the reason here.
35 > bugs.gentoo.org didn't really list such a bug, maybe I should file one.
36 > But to me it seems a bit early as I can't reproduce it or really show
37 > some error-messages so far.
38
39 I still think a hardware stress test will be useful. The least that will
40 happen is you will verify your hardware is probably OK.
41
42 If it is software, then you have a long road ahead of you debugging it. With
43 no error messages of any kind you will likely have to rebuild in debug mode
44 and provide the devs with a backtrace. In which case it's probably easier to
45 downgrade to versions you know work.
46
47 I can attest to xorg-server-1.7.1 working just fine here with latest nvidia-
48 drivers in the tree on amd64
49
50 --
51 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

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Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing "Stefan G. Weichinger" <lists@×××××.at>
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing "Stefan G. Weichinger" <lists@×××××.at>
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing Peter Humphrey <peter@××××××××××××××.org>
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing "Stefan G. Weichinger" <lists@×××××.at>