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On December 11, 2018 10:48:01 AM UTC, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>Neil Bothwick wrote: |
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>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:00:45 -0500, Taiidan@×××.com wrote: |
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>>>> So that proves that US manufacturers are better at hiding their |
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>back |
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>>>>> doors? |
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>>>>> Or is it a numbers game, there are a hell of a lot more systems |
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>made |
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>>>>> in China, so the chances of a backdoor being discovered is higher. |
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>>>>> Either way, lack of evidence of insecurity is not proof of |
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>security. |
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>>> So tell us what is your perfect country for hardware manufacturing? |
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>> There isn't one as you can never be sure. You are presenting hope, |
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>and |
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>> maybe likelihood, as certainty when this does not exist. |
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>I sent a reply off list to Taiiden. Mine was longer but basically, no |
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>Govt can really be trusted and they have proved it. If they can do |
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>something and hide it, they will. Snowden revealed some things but I'm |
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>sure there is a lot of stuff going on that the public knows nothing |
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>about. |
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>None of us should trust anything until it is well tested and done so |
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>over time. |
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>Dale |
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>:-) :-) |
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Which was exactly my point. |
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There is NO government that can be trusted to take their citizens interests before their own. It is inherent in the phrase "power corrupts", of which I am a firm believer as I have seen the corrupting effects power has on people. |
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The classical Communist idea (Note: Russia did NOT have true Communism as the communist party effectively became a multi headed dictatorship) might be trustworthy, but then only if your fellow citizens can be trusted to work towards bettering the entire community and not think of themselves first. Humanity will need to grow up a lot more to reach a state where I would trust my fellow humans enough. |
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And please let this rest in this thread now. If anyone wants to continue this discussion, lets open a seperate thread for it so people not interested in this can easily filter it out. |
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Joost |
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