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On 2021.06.01 07:40, Mart Raudsepp wrote: |
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> Ühel kenal päeval, L, 29.05.2021 kell 16:28, kirjutas Jack: |
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> > I just noticed that the package x11-libs/gtk+ has slots 2 and 3 |
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> > (nothing new there) however, it seems that version 4 has a totally |
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> > new package gui-libs/gtk with only slot 0 (no explicit slot listed) |
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> > with currently ~4.2.0 and 4.2.1 versions available. |
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> They are in SLOT="4" |
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> > I've done a quick |
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> > search through the announce and dev mailing lists, and not found |
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> > anything relevant. Is this an intentional switch? I don't think |
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> > there |
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> > is much yet that uses version 4, but is there any planned migration |
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> > path? |
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> Yes, this is an intentional plan from me, executed by others that had |
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> the time available for it. There were IRC talks and probably some |
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> comments on the relevant bugs. |
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> * I consider it too disruptive to package move everything from x11- |
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> libs/gtk+ to gui-libs/gtk, everyone would need to adapt to it in |
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> overlays, etc |
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> * SLOTs are really nothing more than keeping parallel-installable |
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> packages under the same name, instead of having separate packages like |
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> libgtk2, libgtk3, etc |
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> * New parallel-installable version was a good time to make the switch, |
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> with the old slots left behind in x11-libs until they naturally fall |
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> out of use |
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> * It is increasingly less used with X11, and is still in x11-libs due |
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> to the disruption it would cause to move the existing SLOTs (however |
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> gtk2 is really X11-only) |
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> * Upstream renamed the project from GTK+ to GTK in the gtk4 |
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> development |
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> phase |
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> * Separate packages are just as well parallel-installable as separate |
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> SLOTs |
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> |
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> So given the above, it felt best to just have the new SLOT under new |
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> package name and not force everyone to do busywork to rename things |
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> for |
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> the old slots. |
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> Maybe we can move them over in a couple years without extensive |
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> overlay |
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> breakages, when most things are using GTK4, GTK2 has been last rited |
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> and removed and GTK3 is in a similar state of usage like GTK2 is |
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> today, |
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> or just leave it be and have it eventually disappear. |
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Mart, |
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Thanks for that info - it was exactly what I was looking for. (Also |
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sorry I seem to have missed the slot 4 - I do see it now.) It all |
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makes good sense. |
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Minor mini-rant - unfortunately, gtk+:2 is not quite as totally gone as |
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we'd all like. I still have 10 packages on my box requiring it. A few |
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still need it only for building, and some are expecting upgrades to use |
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:3. I suppose the rest are soon for the history bin. |
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Jack |
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