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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Cc: Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] skype package changes I don't understand
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 18:18:52
Message-Id: 2590328.097jUjF3Rl@energy
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] skype package changes I don't understand by Mark Knecht
1 Am Montag, 21. Mai 2012, 10:54:08 schrieb Mark Knecht:
2 > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
3 > wrote: <SNIP>
4 >
5 > >> if you use testing, you have to deal with such kind of situations.
6 > >> Using a known broken version is just stupid. There isn't a choice
7 > >> between those two. There is only a choice between: use unstable or
8 > >> stable. And if you use unstable, don't complain about things being
9 > >> fluid.
10 >
11 > Typical Volker. Not worth a response.
12 >
13 > > - From what I can tell, he is not using ~amd64 (testing). He uses a
14 > > mixed system (stable with a few packages in package.keywords) which
15 > > sometimes is even worse :)
16 >
17 > That's it precisely. All my systems are 'stable' as best they can be.
18 > The only things that are more or less permanently testing are portage
19 > & eix. After that the only entries in package.keywords are specific
20 > applications or _very_ targeted things that address hardware issues.
21 > (Virtualbox, VMWare Player, nvidia-drivers) That's it. In general, the
22 > only reason ANYTHING goes in package.keywords is to address a
23 > temporary package problem, and typically they aren't there that long.
24 > For instance, if say Virtualbox had a problem I might keyword it for a
25 > month or two to get a new release that fixes the problem. After that
26 > version goes stable I remove the keyword entry and am running the same
27 > version I've been running. My keyword file is currently only about 12
28 > lines.
29 >
30 > In the case of skype there was no stable version to use. Everything is
31 > marked as testing.
32 >
33 > While I agree that the emulation libraries are probably low risk I
34 > don't want to add 8 new things to package.keywords. It's just not the
35 > way I work here.
36 >
37 > > The best way to deal with your problem (and avoid seeing your
38 > > package.keywords getting bigger and bigger) is to grab -r1, mark it
39 > > stable, put it in your local overlay and keep using that indefinitely.
40 >
41 > Yeah, most likely the best medium-term solution although what I've
42 > done for now is emerge -C skype.
43 >
44 > > - --
45 > > Regards,
46 > > Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
47 >
48 > Thanks Markos! I really appreciate your inputs as well as all the work
49 > you guys do. We don't say thanks enough.
50 >
51 > (Ugh Volker. Keep the attitude to yourself dude) ;-(
52 >
53
54 which attitude?
55
56 you are the one using a testing package - and then contemplates to use a KNOWN
57 BAD version for no good reason at all. And then YOU call me out?
58
59 Please...
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