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On Saturday 22 October 2005 14:26, Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: |
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> Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: |
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> > On Saturday 22 October 2005 02:37, Rafael Fernández López wrote: |
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> >>Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: |
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> >>>On Friday 21 October 2005 21:11, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: |
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> >>>>My hole linux box has crashed !!!! |
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> >>>>I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world.... |
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> >>>> |
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> >>>>it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql..... today my hole |
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> >>>>system is against me.... |
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> >>>>I think in reinstall the full system .... has any one got a better |
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> >>>>idea, my backups are unavailable now .... |
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> >>> |
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> >>>what do you mean 'crashed'? |
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> >>> |
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> >>>does revdep-rebuilt still works? |
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> >>> |
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> >>>but at least now you know why you should not use --deep. |
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> >> |
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> >>Deep is almost imprescindible when upgrading. You have to upgrade |
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> >>dependencies too, or maybe your new and fresh app is built onto old |
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> >>libraries that can make it crash, or just going slower. |
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> > |
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> > --deep is totally superflous. |
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> > When something needs the latest libs, it will pull them in anyway. |
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> > So there is no need to install the latest version. Nobody said, that the |
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> > latest are always the fastest too. |
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> > |
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> > When nothing needs the latest stuff, why change the dependency of maybe |
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> > douzends of apps, only to have the latest version? |
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> > |
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> > A lot of times, this breaks stuff. Or does thinks make slower. Or make |
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> > some apps crashy&instabil. |
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> > Some apps even need a very small spectrum of versions - any change in the |
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> > libs, and boom, you have a memory-leaking crashy hog. Or at least |
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> > something that does not work like it should (like xine or mplayer, when |
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> > you update ffmpeg and transcode behind their backs). |
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> > |
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> > --deep does not solve problems, it generates them. |
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> |
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> Sorry, but I don't agree with this. I use -deep every day and have yet |
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> to have any of |
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> these so-called problems Mr. Volker is espousing. I have mplayer and |
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> xine and they both work fine. |
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> I wonder how you came to this conclusion-was it direct experience, or |
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> just banal thinking? |
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> Regards, |
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direct experience. |
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I have seen xine and mplayer break multiple times or KDE loosing its themes, |
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because of qt updates or wesnoth. And that are the ones I remember without to |
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much brain work. |
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That is why I am healed from --deep updates |
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