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From: Eddie Mihalow Jr <stimpy56@×××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:29:22
Message-Id: 435A2FFD.4010806@bellsouth.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!! by "Hemmann
1 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
2 > On Saturday 22 October 2005 02:37, Rafael Fernández López wrote:
3 >
4 >>Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
5 >>
6 >>>On Friday 21 October 2005 21:11, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
7 >>>
8 >>>>My hole linux box has crashed !!!!
9 >>>>I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world....
10 >>>>
11 >>>>it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql..... today my hole
12 >>>>system is against me....
13 >>>>I think in reinstall the full system .... has any one got a better
14 >>>>idea, my backups are unavailable now ....
15 >>>
16 >>>what do you mean 'crashed'?
17 >>>
18 >>>does revdep-rebuilt still works?
19 >>>
20 >>>but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.
21 >>
22 >>Deep is almost imprescindible when upgrading. You have to upgrade
23 >>dependencies too, or maybe your new and fresh app is built onto old
24 >>libraries that can make it crash, or just going slower.
25 >
26 >
27 > --deep is totally superflous.
28 > When something needs the latest libs, it will pull them in anyway.
29 > So there is no need to install the latest version. Nobody said, that the
30 > latest are always the fastest too.
31 >
32 > When nothing needs the latest stuff, why change the dependency of maybe
33 > douzends of apps, only to have the latest version?
34 >
35 > A lot of times, this breaks stuff. Or does thinks make slower. Or make some
36 > apps crashy&instabil.
37 > Some apps even need a very small spectrum of versions - any change in the
38 > libs, and boom, you have a memory-leaking crashy hog. Or at least something
39 > that does not work like it should (like xine or mplayer, when you update
40 > ffmpeg and transcode behind their backs).
41 >
42 > --deep does not solve problems, it generates them.
43 >
44 Sorry, but I don't agree with this. I use -deep every day and have yet
45 to have any of
46 these so-called problems Mr. Volker is espousing. I have mplayer and
47 xine and they both work fine.
48 I wonder how you came to this conclusion-was it direct experience, or
49 just banal thinking?
50 Regards,
51 --
52 Edward A Mihalow Jr
53 Gentoo! Linux
54 Registered Linux User#225662
55 New Orleans,LA
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