Re: [gentoo-user] LLVM and friends is not compatible.

[Wol]

On 05/12/2021 21:21, Alan Grimes wrote:
> I was playing Superliminal the other day and it wasn't doing too well,
> probably my GPU is too rusty to run it well, and it took down X11. Which
> meant it was time to update packages and reboot....
>
> Biig mistake...
>
> Look, I know a lot of you are in the process of being killed to death by
> the slow acting poison known as the covid 19 vaccine. I'm really sorry
> about that neither myself nor God can do jack shit about that at this
> point.

Let's hope we're not dying from the quick poison known as CoVid-19 (that 
said, I do my best to avoid both :-)
>
> I also know that one of the several pathologies the poison inflicts is a
> form of brain rot as prion crystals grow and disrupt neural pathways.
> =\  It really sucks and I wish things had not gotten to this point.
>
> Portage is actually working, to some extent this time so I am actually a
> bit shocked and amazed on that front, it's been ages since it actually
> worked decently well.
>
Just make sure you have a working python !!!

> But then a large number of absolutely critical things are now broken.
>
> -> Xosview can't find the font it needs (!!! WTF???? )
> -> None of my steam games play anymore.
> -> The web browser and mail reader that I've been using since the '90s
> won't build or run. I've been reduced to using WEBMAIL FOR GOD'S SAKE!
> to post this. I feel unclean.

Well my latest update seems to have fixed Thunderbird (which was 
randomly locking up input to the extent it was a Big Red Switch job to 
recover ...).

> -> Neither python 3.9 nor 3.10 will finish building. It appears they run
> some self-tests which fail and then they just freeze up at 0% CPU usage
> and I never get any clear diagnostic information.
> -> GCC-11.2 feels like it is mostly working but might be responsible for
> python failing specific tests as it may have been using trick
> optimizations that were hacks to start with but now don't work with the
> current GCC which is actually working as advertised.

Do you still have Python 3.8? Can you delete 3.9 and 3.10?

Which gcc is default? can you eselect a newer working gcc than your 
current version?
>
> I think one of the root issues is that llvm-13 deprecated several
> command line options that broke a number of packages that took a great
> many more packages down with them. I first just masked clang-13 but that
> doesn't seem to be enough, I also masked llvm-13 and llvm-common-13 and
> am running --emptytree world AGAIN.
>
Well, what I always do then is first an "emerge system" (no extra 
options), then an emerge world, then finally an emerge deep newuse 
world. Just a little bit each time. Forcing a bit at a time.

The other thing is (as I found out ...) are any default emerge options 
screwing you over? I had to comment out my default options to get 
virtualbox to emerge update properly, so if you've got any, comment them 
out and see if it improves matters ...

I'm going to have more "fun" soon, I think ... I looked at funtoo linux 
earlier today, but I think that'll be a no-no - it goes about "wolves 
owning their own shit" then craps all over systemd. I get some people 
don't like it, but when people say "if you like it we don't want you 
here" then I am afraid I don't want to know bigots like that.

I then found SourceMage ... looks very interesting! It's a pretty basic 
distro it seems to me, but it also seems to be a distro that doesn't try 
to tell its users what to run. So I'll be playing ... and it doesn't 
give you all that portage grief! Not that I like the sound of bash ... 
:-) but all the basic system tools are written in it. They're very much 
"no dependency spaghetti", and that hopefully makes for easier admin...

The only problem is it seems very short-staffed. It's clearly up-to-date 
as in there's plenty of recent time stamps, but you have to look for 
them as much of the docu is 5, 10 years old ...

Cheers,
Wol