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From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:26:29
Message-Id: CADPrc833mwB4dBghPhBRA9OA0NGgJV=c56wXJm4hjuha5rbFCA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) by Alan McKinnon
1 On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:32:41 +0800
3 > 微蔡 <microcai@×××××××××××××.org> wrote:
4 >
5 >> 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 07:22:41,Bruce Hill 写道:
6 >> > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann
7 >> > wrote:
8 >> > > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't
9 >> > > want is forced upon you. If it is also based on lies, hate is a
10 >> > > valid reaction. A lot of people don't need nor want pulseaudio or
11 >> > > systemd. Now it is forced on everybody.
12 >> > >
13 >> > > When systemd devs took over udev, one was told that of course,
14 >> > > one could use udev without [systemd] in the future.
15 >> > >
16 >> > > Now they are talking about making udev systemd only.
17 >>
18 >> obsolutly nonsense. what they remove , is the ability to build udev
19 >> seperately. udev can still be used without systemd.
20 >>
21 >
22 > Say Dude,
23 >
24 > I have a question (well, two actually)
25 >
26 > My name is Alan and I've been subscribed on this list for 7 years.
27 >
28 > What's your name, and how long have you been around?
29 >
30 > Just trying to establish your place in the pecking order in this here
31 > meritocracy.
32
33 Seniority != meritocracy. And I don't know how much "meritocratic"
34 this list could be, since it is a users lists. The most "merit" a
35 member of this list can get is to give technically acurate,
36 constructive, and polite help for those users asking for it.
37
38 IMO, the most active users of this lists usually fail in at least two
39 of those three, sometimes all of them. Unfortunately, I don't think I
40 have done better. I suscribed to this lists more than eight years ago;
41 I stopped asking for help here just a few months later. Which is
42 easily explained by people like you that believe that "being around"
43 longer somehow gives more "merit" and that there is a "pecking order".
44
45 I was under the impression that, being all of us Gentoo users, we were
46 equals, although some of us know less about some things and some
47 others know more about some other things. Hence the smart, mature, and
48 polite exchange of ideas. I didn't know this was a pissing contest.
49
50 This is a technical help list, related to the Gentoo Linux
51 distribution. Please, don't try to "pull rank" in here; you just look
52 bad, and at least I would laugh at the futility of it. Even more
53 considering I've been around longer:
54
55 http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@g.o/msg35368.html
56
57 Mmmh. Maybe I've been around even longer than 8 years. But, who the fuck cares?
58
59 It's completely relevant.
60
61 Regards.
62 --
63 Canek Peláez Valdés
64 Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
65 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) Bruce Hill <daddy@×××××××××××××××××××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>