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On Friday 08 June 2007, "Hemmann, Volker Armin" |
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<volker.armin.hemmann@××××××××××××.de> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] |
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Again: Critical bugs considered invalid': |
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> On Samstag, 9. Juni 2007, b.n. wrote: |
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> > Kent Fredric ha scritto: |
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> > > On 6/8/07, b.n. <brullonulla@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> > > ( probably releated to it being a |
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> > > generally harder distro to use that *cough* ewwbuntu *cough* |
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> > > unlinspired *cough* or *cough* deadrat *cough* ) |
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> > |
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> > OT: Ubuntu distros (Kubuntu, expecially) are really, really shiny and |
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> > slick pieces of software. I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 at work and |
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> > it's the more polished, ready-to-go, easy to use Linux distro I've |
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> > ever seen. I use Gentoo on my home desktop for various reasons and |
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> > because I have different needs, but the Linux community has only to |
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> > learn from the Ubuntus. |
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> |
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> what to learn? How to make kcontrol worse? |
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I think many find ksystemsettings to be better a better interface than |
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kcontrol. I don't, so I just use kcontrol. It is a little stupid that |
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they don't install the desktop icon for it, but it's trivial to fix. |
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> The slowest boot of all |
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> times? |
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My Gentoo boots more slowly, but that's probably related to the large delay |
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mounting a 3TiB reiserfs. Ubuntu can also be very quick to boot *if* all |
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files read on startup fit into system ram throughout the startup sequence, |
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on my laptop this isn't the case, so my booting is somewhat delayed. |
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> A braindead installer? |
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How exactly is it braindead? I've used it multiple times and while it's |
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error handling could be better, it's allowed me to do all the setup I need |
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before the install starts and generally gets me run-and-running much |
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faster and Gentoo. |
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> A patched-to-death kpdf? |
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Yeah, ubuntu patches KDE left and right and it's a bit annoying, especially |
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when they reduce usability for no good reason. E.g. the search toolbar |
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forces the cursor to the end of it's contents from time to time, and |
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doesn't properly submit searches with parenthesis in them -- both issues |
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make the search bar on Gentoo much better. |
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> Yes, there is something to learn from the ubuntus. Like: don't make |
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> their mistakes. |
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Their "mistakes" made them the most popular linux distribution in a |
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incredibly small amount of time. Their "mistakes" continue to drive user |
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and developers toward the project in flocks. Their "mistakes" lead to |
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Dell shipping home systems with Ubuntu pre-installed. |
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I love Gentoo. I love Debian. I still think Ubuntu does some things |
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better and some things worse. On my laptop, I'd prefer not to configure |
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anything -- and Ubuntu provides a usable system with no hassles. Servers |
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@ work -- Debian. Desktop @ home -- Gentoo. I don't think I'd change any |
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of them. |
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> Or: there is a difference between userfriendly and made |
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> for idiots. |
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Ubuntu being neither. ;) |
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