Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 5

[Frank Steinmetzger]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:51:28AM +0800, konsolebox wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 1:30 AM, Philip Webb <purslow@××××××××.net> wrote:
> > It looks as if in the near future I am going to have to install KDE 5 ,
> > if I want to go on using my regular daily apps Konsole Gwenview Okular ;
> > yes, I know I can limit exposure to their requirements
> > & don't need to install the whole desktop system.
> >
> > Before I plunge into that, is anyone else using KDE 5 every day ?
> > What are people's experiences with it ?
>
> I just installed KDE 5 in order to try how one application works on
> it, and also due to my curiosity.  The applications that depend on it:
> konsole and dolphin, doesn't work well if KDE5 is not itself the one
> that's running.  In dolphin, some icons don't show.  konsole also
> doesn't show some icons when it uses them as its own icon.

After 4.14 packages left portage, I did bite the bullet (after rsyncing / to
an external HDD). I’m not very fond of the new minimalist design language
everyone seems to adopt, so I kept oxygen icons. I had to uninstall some
blockers by hand (bye bye knemo, crystal and qtcurve[windeco]. :'-( ).

At first I wanted to write a rant mail about lots of bugs after I made the
world upgrade, but then I noticed that I only upgraded what was there, and
did not install plasma-meta to pull in the new stuff. Once that was done,
things looked a lot better.

No hangups so far, not even a proper crash. I only disabled file indexing
from the start because baloo was hogging my spinning drive. I might even try
and find out what of the old akonadi indexing database I could delete and
free up oogles of megabytes.
I imagine that’s probably less hassle than start with a clean user directory
and add all my PIM stuff back (several accounts for mail, contacts and
calendar with all their detailed settings).

What I do like:
- the circular system monitor
- actually less waste of space in the panel in comparison to Oxygen due to
  smaller margins around taskbar items and the pager widget
What I miss:
- no more eyes for the panel
- no way of navigating the classical Kmenu via shortcut keys due to the
  always-on search field. What is the purpose of krunner then.
- no good network monitor (yet?). The KDE-own has no options at all, I can't
  set anything (things like width, animation step size or hiding the
  interface name, which overlaps with the graph label).

> Firefox seems to have been affected by it as well.  It doesn't show the
> scroll bar button, and some widget borders looked a little different.

That's GTK3. I installed clearlooks-phenix to get back a more traditional
look and also disabled their stupid non-standard default that -- when you
left-click a scrollbar -- it scrolls directly to that position.
After years of strong dislike of anything GTK due to ugliness in the
mid-2000s, I came to terms with it a few years back, I even like XFCE on
low-power devices. But GTK3 gets me all going again. Whenever I save a file
from within Firefox, I am appalled by the file dialog and its non-existing
usability.


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