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Mick wrote: |
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> On Friday, 17 May 2019 09:43:46 BST Dale wrote: |
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>> My problems with init thingys date all the way back to to the Mandrake |
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>> 9.1 days when I first used Linux. |
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> I was never a Mandrake user, but also avoided using an initrd unless it came |
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> with a binary distro - at which point I would also expect it to Just-Work(TM). |
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> The world has moved on since Mandrake 9.x and the generation of initramfs is a |
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> much more automated and reliable process now. |
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I was not that lucky with Mandrake. I stopped counting the number of |
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times the init thingy failed. It got to a point where I would not |
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update Mandrake, I would download a new CD and reinstall only leaving |
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/home untouched. Even then, with some dodgy hardware, rebooting was not |
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something I looked forward to. |
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> Regarding a separate /usr fs necessitating initramfs, it shouldn't be too |
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> difficult to plan some downtime, reboot with Live-media and move the /usr fs |
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> contents into /, following any required partition modifications. Unless of |
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> course you *want* to keep /usr separate for mounting it as read-only, or |
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> sharing it among multiple OS, in which case I don't think you can escape |
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> initramfs. |
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> The downtime for rebooting a new kernel is measured in seconds. Even if the |
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> new kernel fails, you can fallback onto the previous kernel and boot that in |
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> seconds. |
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As I posted earlier, if I ever replace the hard drive, with a SDD most |
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likely, that is the plan. With a SDD there is little need to have a |
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separate partition. I may still make /var separate tho, since I've had |
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logs go crazy and fill it up before. Having /var fill up is less of a |
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problem than / filling up. |
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>> As to hardware, I had one time where that was a issue. Power failed and |
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>> a shutdown was needed. When I went to power back up, the CPU fan |
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>> wouldn't spin up. After a couple drops of oil was added, it was |
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>> spinning up again and of course, I ordered a replacement fan right |
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>> away. I don't recall ever having any other hardware problem. |
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> Count yourself lucky. You could have discovered your disk wouldn't spin up |
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> again, your PSU packed up, or even the MoBo chipset decided to retire from |
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> active service. Eventually, any of these hardware problems would manifest |
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> themselves, but a reboot could reveal their demise sooner and hopefully at a |
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> point where you were somewhat prepared for it. |
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As I posted, I've had a fan to fail, that's it. Thing is, at the moment |
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I'm not prepared for any of that but when things age, I replace them. |
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Of course, that really requires planning and is one reason I wouldn't |
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mind having a second system. Thing is, if I'm running, it is working. |
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Avoiding reboots avoids those issues. Rebooting only forces them to |
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show up sooner, which I don't want. I'm not sure how making something |
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fail sooner is really going to help anything. If making something fail |
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sooner is the answer, never change oil in your car. ROFL |
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Dale |
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:-) :-) |