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From: R0b0t1 <r030t1@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: "New to aliexpress" pop up - how to block it?
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 08:56:27
Message-Id: CAAD4mYiRKMFxuCGy24CG1ov5TB9GCK0EDP06Ej+exPeiZvObkA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: "New to aliexpress" pop up - how to block it? by tuxic@posteo.de
1 On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 3:44 AM, <tuxic@××××××.de> wrote:
2 > On 07/16 03:12, R0b0t1 wrote:
3 >> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 2:11 AM, <tuxic@××××××.de> wrote:
4 >> > On 07/16 01:59, R0b0t1 wrote:
5 >> >> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 1:47 AM, <tuxic@××××××.de> wrote:
6 >> >> > Hi,
7 >> >> >
8 >> >> > that drives my insane:
9 >> >> > While searching items for my DIY Nixie clock on aliexpress I get
10 >> >> > one certain popup with each new access to aliexpress asking
11 >> >> > me, whether I am new to aliexpress and offers me a coupon.
12 >> >> >
13 >> >> > I have no othe chance than clicking on this [beep] pop up
14 >> >> > to be able to see the page contents.
15 >> >> >
16 >> >> > I searched the web for according informations how to block
17 >> >> > this [beep] popup, but I only get informations how to
18 >> >> > remove a certain kind of adware virus from Mac and Windows.
19 >> >> >
20 >> >> > Since this virus pops up an advertisement of constantly changing
21 >> >> > goods and is page filling I am sure I am not suffering from this.
22 >> >> >
23 >> >> > If anyone out there has solved this problem without disabling
24 >> >> > the possibility to /buy/ something on aliexpress PLEASE HELP
25 >> >> > ME. I AM NEAR INSANITY! ;) :)
26 >> >> >
27 >> >> > Thanks a lot in advance for any life saver!
28 >> >> > Cheers
29 >> >> > Meino
30 >> >> >
31 >> >>
32 >> >> You might be able to block the element on the page using uBlock
33 >> >> Origin, but unfortunately that type of ad is very hard to remove. If
34 >> >> you have to interact with it is harder to select using uBlock's
35 >> >> interface.
36 >> >>
37 >> >> You can also use Greasemonkey to block more invasive ads, but I never
38 >> >> had much luck with that. It's designed to do more than filter
39 >> >> background content.
40 >> >>
41 >> >> I feel like I need to ask whether or not you've done something like
42 >> >> disable cookies. I'd not suggest doing that, at most delete all of
43 >> >> them when you close your browser session. It's impossible to use most
44 >> >> pages without having cookies enabled (this makes automating things
45 >> >> with web libraries infuriating).
46 >> >>
47 >> >> R0b0t1.
48 >> >>
49 >> >
50 >> > Hi R0b0t1,
51 >> >
52 >> > For "normal browsing" I created a profile for firefox which is privacy
53 >> > enhanced -- blocking all sorts of things. This profile works half
54 >> > with the sites I normally visit.
55 >> > Aliexpress get screwed up when visited using this profile.
56 >> >
57 >> > So I created a second profile, which I use for Aliexpress only. This
58 >> > one has only some privacy related things enabled. Aliexpress works --
59 >> > including poping up this [beep] "Are you new to Aliexpress?" popup.
60 >> > Cookies are enabled with this profile.
61 >> >
62 >>
63 >> Does it do this on every page load or just the first time you interact with it?
64 >>
65 >
66 > I did the following:
67 > *** Surf to www.aliexpress.com (no popup and no way to search despite
68 > the fact that a search bar is shown.)
69 > *** Click on any product -- product will be displayed and popup pops
70 > up (hence the name), click the popup to remove it. Search bar now works.
71 > *** Click "reload tab"...the whole [beep] starts from the beginning.
72 >
73
74 I've managed to block something similar using uBlock Origin, but it
75 was really hard to select it with the GUI picker that creates blocking
76 rules for you.
77
78 The technical term for what the website is using is called a popover
79 and I remember people talking about blocking them with uBlock Origin
80 because they are hard to block, but I can't find anything relevant to
81 this discussion in Google.
82
83 >> > As soon as I login into Aliexpress the popup disappears -- now
84 >> > Aliexpress is satisfied, because tracking my searches is now
85 >> > personalized.
86 >> >
87 >>
88 >> If you can't find a way to target the overlay with uBlock Origin you
89 >> might try looking at https://greasyfork.org/en and using Greasemonkey.
90 >> Unfortunately all the premade scripts I could find were simple things
91 >> like pricing changes.
92 >
93 > Why Greasemonkey is especially use ful in this case?
94 > (this is curiosity -- and NO expression of doubt, R0b0t1! :)
95 >
96
97 Greasemonkey injects JavaScript onto your webpages based on filter
98 criteria, so you can effectively do anything your browser can do when
99 displaying the webpage. Some of the more impressive feats are
100 reengineered webpages that are better than the original service, most
101 of them are mundane and only alter a few values on a webpage.
102
103 You can also use it for laser-guided adblocking if you need to.
104 Unfortunately Greasemonkey requires quite a bit of knowledge about
105 itself, web development, and the page you are trying to modify, so I
106 can't be of much help apropos.
107
108 >>
109 >> > Its the same reason for why buying via Aliexpress App on a
110 >> > smartphone/tablet is cheaper than using a PC.
111 >> > I am using XPrivacy on my Android tablet which shows, blocks
112 >> > or allows ANY access to permissions like "Get your location"
113 >> > et cetera -- I instantly deleted that App after I saw, what this
114 >> > App wants to know.
115 >> >
116 >>
117 >> It's sad to see another website doing this. There's a few that make it
118 >> all but impossible to use the service without logging in or supplying
119 >> information one way or another. If the creator of the website doesn't
120 >> want you to use it, I'm not sure there's a lot that can ultimately be
121 >> done about it.
122 >>
123 >> In a similar vein, my phone now displays advertising. The state of
124 >> computing has me despondent.
125 >
126 > For your phone: Root it, install XPosed/XPosedInstaller, install XPrivacy, install
127 > Bootmanager, install PreventRunning, install AFWall -- and your
128 > phone is yours again. Buying XPrivacy is worth every cent (it is
129 > cheap!) and it can be bought directly by its developer Marcel
130 > Bokhorst via Mony transfer -- no need to feed Google again!
131 >
132 > For more drop me a PM.
133 >
134
135 I might take you up on your offer but the main issue is my phone isn't
136 a flagship device so I can't expect a ROM to exist for it. I suppose
137 I'll check.
138
139 R0b0t1.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: "New to aliexpress" pop up - how to block it? "Urs Schütz" <u.schutz@×××××××.ch>