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On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 01:04:14 -0600 |
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Daniel Campbell <lists@××××××××.us> wrote: |
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> On 02/18/2014 12:14 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: |
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> > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Savchenko |
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> > <bircoph@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> >> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:22:23 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: |
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> >>>> Yet again, I respect ones right to use whatever one wants, but I |
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> >>>> ask to respect mine as well. That's why I propose a separate |
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> >>>> systemd profile for those willing to use it. |
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> >>> |
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> >>> Then write. Just be aware that to write a systemd profile, you |
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> >>> need to use systemd. |
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> >> |
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> >> Or to create a non-systemd profile :) |
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> > |
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> > That's the best response I've read in, like, many years. That's |
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> > perfect; I'm 100% behind it. I even volunteer to help (with testing) |
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> > to anyone going for this. |
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> > |
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> > You guys create a systemd-sucks-we-dont-want-it profile, and I |
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> > promise to give you guys a hand. |
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> > |
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> > Make a profile that "frees" users from using systemd, and I think |
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> > even several Gentoo developers will get behind that. |
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> > |
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> > Now we are talking; this has been my whole point the whole time. |
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> > Everybody that don't want to use systemd; help this idea, and if |
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> > there are enough of you, you'll pulled through. |
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> > |
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> > Regards. |
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> > |
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> For such a profile to be legitimate, systemd would have to be chosen |
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> as the default. Gentoo is one of the last bastions of choice |
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> available to GNU/Linux users and it would create a complete shitstorm |
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> if systemd were pushed on Gentoo's users. You're just trying to push |
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> systemd on one of the few distros that doesn't use it by default. Do |
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> you hang out with John Paul Adrian Glaubitz? He's a Debian developer |
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> who has a long-running history of pushing systemd as well. There is |
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> nothing wrong with systemd as a choice, but to push it as the default |
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> is ridiculous. systemd can have its own profile while the rest of the |
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> world goes on without it. Everybody wins. |
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> For all this talk about technical details, |
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> nobody seems to notice the marketing |
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A few people including myself have noted it earlier. |
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> that's going on and frankly it disgusts me. |
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And me too. |
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