Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

[Daniel Campbell]

On 02/18/2014 12:14 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@×××××.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:22:23 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>> Yet again, I respect ones right to use whatever one wants, but I ask
>>>> to respect mine as well. That's why I propose a separate systemd
>>>> profile for those willing to use it.
>>>
>>> Then write. Just be aware that to write a systemd profile, you need to
>>> use systemd.
>>
>> Or to create a non-systemd profile :)
>
> That's the best response I've read in, like, many years. That's
> perfect; I'm 100% behind it. I even volunteer to help (with testing)
> to anyone going for this.
>
> You guys create a systemd-sucks-we-dont-want-it profile, and I promise
> to give you guys a hand.
>
> Make a profile that "frees" users from using systemd, and I think even
> several Gentoo developers will get behind that.
>
> Now we are talking; this has been my whole point the whole time.
> Everybody that don't want to use systemd; help this idea, and if there
> are enough of you, you'll pulled through.
>
> Regards.
>

For such a profile to be legitimate, systemd would have to be chosen as
the default. Gentoo is one of the last bastions of choice available to
GNU/Linux users and it would create a complete shitstorm if systemd were
pushed on Gentoo's users. You're just trying to push systemd on one of
the few distros that doesn't use it by default. Do you hang out with
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz? He's a Debian developer who has a
long-running history of pushing systemd as well. There is nothing wrong
with systemd as a choice, but to push it as the default is ridiculous.
systemd can have its own profile while the rest of the world goes on
without it. Everybody wins.

For all this talk about technical details, nobody seems to notice the
marketing that's going on and frankly it disgusts me.