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Marc Joliet <marcec@×××.de> writes: |
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>> Can you do all that with the binary files created by systemd? I can't |
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>> even read them on a working system. |
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> What Canek and Rich already said is good, but I'll just add this: it's not like |
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> you can't run a classic syslog implementation alongside the systemd journal. |
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> On my systems, by *default*, syslog-ng kept working as usual, getting the logs |
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> from the systemd journal. If you want to go further, you can even configure |
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> the journal to not store logs permanently, so that you *only* end up with |
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> plain-text logs on your system (Duncan on gentoo-amd64 went this way). |
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> So no, the format that the systemd journal uses is most decidedly *not* a reason |
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> against using systemd. |
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It is only one of the many reasons. I don't find it advantageous to |
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have to waste additional resources to be able to read the log files. |
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> Personally, I'm probably going to uninstall syslog-ng, because journalctl is |
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> *such* a nice way to read logs, so why run something whose output I'll never |
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> read again? |
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If you like it, nobody prevents you from using it. It's good to have |
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many options. Just don't force others to use it as well. |
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Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons |
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might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable. |