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From: William Kenworthy <billk@×××××××××.au>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:12:34
Message-Id: 52129804.4050303@iinet.net.au
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo by Alecks Gates
1 On 19/08/13 22:20, Alecks Gates wrote:
2 > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@×××××××××××.org> wrote:
3 >>
4 ...
5 >
6 > Can someone please explain to me what's so hard and/or complicated
7 > about making an initramfs? At this point in time it's extremely
8 > simple for me, but I only manage relatively simple systems (although
9 > I'd like that to change soon). All I do is add one extra line (for
10 > example - "dracut -H --kver=3.11.0-rc6") to my kernel install
11 > procedure.
12 >
13 > Granted, the only reason I have an initramfs is for the plymouth
14 > splash screen (other systems aren't desktops) -- but from everything I
15 > can see it's not too complicated otherwise.
16 >
17
18 Ive had one employment threatening episode when a redhat system using
19 initramfs wouldnt boot (my fault in fact, I got out of sync with
20 initramfs/kernel version on the install) and it was an important server.
21 Since then I eliminated them and surprise never had a failure until
22 recently when I started using genkernel. So now I have mostly systems
23 using initramfs, 3 customised, one of which will no longer hibernate to
24 disk and I am suspecting the initrd.
25
26 Its fine when it all works, but the question in this case is how many
27 times do I want to crash the system trying to fault-find it? Its not
28 that it doesn't work, or that its generally reliable but that its an
29 unwanted/unneeded extra point of failure built around an extra workload.
30 Distros like Redhat have specialists that do that, we dont and we are
31 NOT competing in Redhats market space so "why"?
32
33 I actually think working towards a read-only /usr is a good idea and am
34 ambivalent about it being in the root, its the baggage thats being
35 worked in alongside this thats the problem for me.
36
37 BillK