Re: [gentoo-user] Putting gentoo to work :)

[Alexandru Mincu]

On 2/10/07, b.n. <brullonulla@×××××.com> wrote:
>
> Alexandru Mincu ha scritto:
> > First of all let's start with the clients...
> > I am a Gnome fan and I think it is better and simpler to use, but them
> > if you have windows users that you want to put to use linux, kde might
> > be a better option... although this is a matter of taste I would accept
> > some suggestions(without killing each other here), bu please take in
> > consideration all the things i want to add.
> >
> > Things required:
> > Email,
> > Calendar  sharing,
> > IM,
> > Office suite,
> > other bullshit managers use to put you to work(suggestions accepted
> here) :)
> > Web  browsing,
> > A content management system
>
> You should be a bit more clear.
> - What is the, let's say, noobness-level of users of the thin clients?
> Will they be scared by anything not exactly Windows-like or not?


Well they are all noobs ... I  am talking  about like 90%  of the  people
there  don't have any idea linux exists :). That's why usability is a key
here... i want it to be easy to use even if you did not ever see a linux
desktop in your life.

- What do you mean *exactly* for CMS? A web based CMS, for an internal
> blog for example? Is this centralized or maintained by users? Do you
> instead need something for mutual information sharing and deposit? (in
> this case, I'd advice for a Wiki) Or it is something local, user
> specific, to take notes etc.? (in that case, Tomboy or basKet could be
> nice apps)


Well I was thinking about a web based cms, kind of like a wiki but i would
also like the possibility to store versioned files and manage documents per
task(i mean for this matter you have 5 written files).

- Do you need connectivity with external Windows machines? MS Exchange
> servers?


Well i was thinking into configuring the server to be a VPN server and
giving VNC clients that connet to a VNC server in the network ... this way
they can access their hole desktop and not just 1 thing from the windows
machines.... This is because I hope that the only windows machines there
will be the laptops and not the desktops.
Not exchange server there for the moment .... I would prefer an OS variant
to exchange ...

- Do you need to exchange data with MS Office users?


Well ... you always need  this... but i think OO  dose a good job for that
....

- IM is fully internal or need interoperability with external apps?


well i will start with  an internal server and mabe use gaim to let users
access them all :).

Which ones? Do you need VOIP?


No voip.

Only thing I can directly advice you is Firefox for web browsing (best
> support). For everything else, I don't know. A general advice could be
> to keep as much as possible applications belonging to the same desktop.
> I'm quite on the KDE side, and I think that Konqueror (the file
> manager), K3b and Kopete are truly superior apps that may make the
> difference in your case.
>
> > I also think that some eye candy would be gr8 to have ... I tried both
> > compiz and beryl, but none were stable for me... it's true i was using
> > nvidia's beta driers but anyway. have any of you tried compiz or beryl?
> > which one is really stable and ready to use for a company? Is the
> > Xgl+(compiz|beryl) variant stable? I for one really liked beryl's
> > features but it seems to be more unstable than compiz.
>
> I think compiz and beryl, in their current state, make little sense for
> such a corporate network. However I understand they can impress your
> boss in letting him think (rightly so, even if for partially wrong
> reasons) that you are installing a technically superior solution.
>
> Well, it seems currently Beryl is the one gaining momentum. The recent
> Wall plugin seems at the same time very useful and very visually
> impressive. If you are sure about going that way, stick to *really*
> useful plugins (basically the Exposè-like thing, I don't remember its
> name, and the Wall). About stability, I can't say.


Yes ... I also saw the Wall plugin ... and was thinking about the same thing
... I must do an XGL+beryl install and stress test it to see CPU usage and
stability.

> Now for updates .. which profile do you think would better suit a
> > company .. should I use hardend gentoo? Is there a version of gentoo
> > that keeps things down with the upgrades to stable packages or I should
> > keep my own tree and sync only the stuff I want and test into it?
>
> I'd go for the second. Hardened gentoo could be an idea, but I truly
> don't know what kind of problems it can have -personally I would put a
> tight OpenBSD firewall between the server and the Internet.
>
> In every case, having a test machine where checking *every* package
> upgrade extensively should be a must.


Thought so ... hard work but it's worth it :).

m.


Thanks :)

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