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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: automated code validation
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 00:55:06
Message-Id: CAGfcS_mXfR97acZxknrtKcx0=LxYHrJL9=-+3jfg_Rfdy_yM-A@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: automated code validation by James
1 On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 5:42 PM, James <wireless@×××××××××××.com> wrote:
2 > Rich Freeman <rich0 <at> gentoo.org> writes:
3 >> > liveUSB, where folks can download "Gentoo Fever" onto a usb stick and stick
4 >> > into their current hardware and boot up a killer code development system.
5 >>
6 >> Building a liveUSB version of Gentoo is almost completely orthagonal
7 >> to building an automatic ebuild testing system.
8 >
9 > Agreed from where you sit. Where I sit, when I explain to folks about
10 > this project, a liveUSB stick running the latest in what gentoo-fever
11 > is, speaks volumes to encourage non-gentoo folks to take it for a test
12 > drive.
13
14 I didn't say it was a bad idea. I just said that it had nothing to do
15 with Continuous Integration (CI).
16
17 If a billion people used Gentoo for 8 hours a day straight, that would
18 also have nothing to do with CI.
19
20 >
21 >>
22 >> A Gentoo CI system doesn't even have to be hosted on Gentoo, or on
23 >> Linux for that matter. Of course, if one were ever to become official
24 >> it most likely would be hosted on Gentoo, but most likely not on a box
25 >> booted from a USB.
26 >
27 > Um, I never saw "CI" defined, so please define specifically, then
28 > use the abbrev?
29 >
30
31 Continuous Integration is probably being used a bit loosely here. The
32 concept is testing every commit to ensure a level of quality. Commits
33 wouldn't directly hit users - they would be tested first (perhaps in
34 batches), and then would only hit users if they pass. Or something
35 along those lines. Maybe it would just refer to frequently testing
36 the tree with automated bug reporting.
37
38 None of this has to do with having a USB live distro.
39
40 >
41 >> I'm not saying that a liveUSB version of Gentoo wouldn't be nice to
42 >> have. It just has nothing to do with solving this particular problem.
43 >
44 > OK, see above; you are right technically. Do you want a few dozen
45 > participates or a few thousand?
46
47 I want ZERO participants. That's the whole point. It is supposed to
48 be automated.
49
50 Sure, somebody has to write the code, but I doubt handing out liveUSB
51 images is going to inspire that.
52
53 Also, if your main goal was to have a quick easy-to-use Linux desktop,
54 I'm not quite sure why you'd pick Gentoo in particular to base it on.
55 The whole point of Gentoo is that you can change it, while a liveUSB
56 tends to imply something static and standardized.
57
58 Heck, they could use ChromeOS as it is a Gentoo derivative. However,
59 if you want something in-between Sabayon is probably about right. :)
60
61 --
62 Rich

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: automated code validation Sam Bishop <sam@××××××.email>