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On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Roy Wright <roy@××××××.org> wrote: |
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> Neil Bothwick wrote: |
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>> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:14:34 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote: |
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>>> nice -19 emerge -j4 --buildpgkonly kde-base/kde-meta |
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>>> |
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>>> but it takes next to no time instead of hours and |
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>>> hasn't build the binary packages without any error messages. |
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>>> What am I missing? |
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>> |
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>> --buildpkg only works if the dependent packages are installed, you cannot |
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>> build kmail-4.2 (for package or install) if kdelibs-4.2 is not installed. |
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>> That's a long way round of saying that you can't do what you want and |
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>> build all the KDE4 packages in advance. |
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>> |
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>> To minimise downtime, even though it increases the overall install time, |
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>> you could upgrade you your KDE3 install to 3.5.10. Then you can install |
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>> KDE 4.x alongside it. |
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> |
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> KDE 4.2 is slotted so I just built it as normal from within kde 4.1.4 while |
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> continuing to use the system. When the emerge finished, I continued in |
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> 4.1.4 for about an hour until I hit a stopping point, then dispatched-conf |
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> (no kde conf changes) logged out and chose 4.2 and logged back in (didn't |
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> even restart X). This was smoothest kde upgrade that I can recall, big |
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> kudos to the devs! |
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> A few hours into using 4.2 and no glitches! I'm actually able to use |
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> plasmoids without 10 second UI freezes. Whoop! And that's on nvidia |
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> 8600GTS and ~x86. First impression is 4.2 is ready for prime time. |
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> |
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> Have fun, |
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> Roy |
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Random KDE 4.2 impressions from a long-time KDE 3.x user: |
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I still get desktop crashes when trying to do things with plasmoids |
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(randomly) so I don't have any, and I question their usefulness |
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anyway. adding "desktop widgets" while simultaneously removing |
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traditional icons and trying to discourage people from "using the |
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desktop" (in vista as well as KDE) seems odd to me. I miss my dockable |
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weather applet from KDE 3.5 :( I don't want to have to minimize |
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everything I've got open just to see the temperature on a widget. But |
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that's not a problem because the weather widget in KDE4 doesn't work |
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for me anyway. |
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All konsole sessions run from the same procress, so when it crashed |
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while browsing fonts, it crashed every konsole i had open all at |
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once... |
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Default fonts (by family, serif, sans-serif, etc) in KDE4 were |
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corrupted for me in every version (maybe I'm missing some fonts that |
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the ebuild doesn't require?), I had to manually change every font to a |
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specific existing font to make them not look horrible (anti-aliasing) |
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and to fix the invisible text problem (blank text on add widget |
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dialog, blank text on taskbar). |
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I got X crashes constantly until I removed all nvidia settings from my |
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xorg.conf and just used the defaults. It has been good since then. |
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Performance/responsiveness (with desktop effects enabled) is nowhere |
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near as good as 3.5, obviously. Specifically konsole is SO SLOW. Using |
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the right (or wrong) combination of fonts and font settings can cause |
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simply running top in a konsole to use 99% CPU. Scrolling around in MC |
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with the arrow keys is sluggish. Disabling the KDE desktop effects |
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makes this problem go away, but then that's the only big improvement |
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over KDE 3. |
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KDE4 tries to automount discs and USB drives etc which I hate. I |
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haven't tried to disable it yet but it's on my list of things to do. |
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I do not use the GUI file manager stuff (in KDE3 or KDE4) so I can't |
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say whether that's any better or worse. KDE4 uses one-click to launch |
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stuff by default which is really annoying to me. I'm sure that can be |
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changed somewhere but again I haven't had time to mess with that yet. |
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Visually it looks like a total rip-off of Vista, including the new 4.2 |
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taskbar. The default window borders theme is grey and I find it has |
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too little contrast, it's hard to tell which things are active/focused |
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and which are background. I've accidentally clicked the wrong X a few |
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times. :P |
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In KDE 4.0 and 4.1 I tried them for less than 1 day and gave up, going |
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back to 3.x. This time I'm trying to force myself to stick with KDE |
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4.2 for a while to see how it goes. Especially since it seems KDE3 is |
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going to reach unsupported state in the near future... |
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The lack of an upgrade from KDE3 to KDE4 is really annoying. I had |
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hundreds of sites in Akregator. Fired up KDE4 and it was blank. eek! |
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Tried copying over the data files, Akregator crashed every time. |
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Eventually I was able to copy just the definitions but not the message |
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data and that seems to have worked without crashing so far... but i |
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lost all my archived data. :( |