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From: Florian Philipp <lists@×××××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : CPU : 22 nm vs 32 nm
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:34:34
Message-Id: 501057E0.9030508@binarywings.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : CPU : 22 nm vs 32 nm by Volker Armin Hemmann
1 Am 25.07.2012 22:14, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
2 > Am Mittwoch, 25. Juli 2012, 16:05:29 schrieb Philip Webb:
3 >> I've listed what's available at the local store,
4 >> which I trust to stock reliable items, tho' I wouldn't ask their advice.
5 >>
6 >> All the AMD's are 32 nm , while the Intel recommended by one commenter
7 >> -- Core i5-3570 4-Core Socket LGA1155, 3.4 Ghz, 6MB L3 Cache, 22 nm --
8 >> is 22 nm : it costs CAD 230 & they have 3 in stock,
9 >> which suggests demand, but not the most popular ( 9 in stock).
10 >>
11 >> Isn't 22 nm going to be faster than 32 nm ?
12 >
13 > no
14 >
15
16 Lower transistor size gives you two advantages: Lower current (->
17 potentially lower power consumption and heat) and more transistors to do
18 something. The practical effects depend on what the chip maker does with
19 this.
20
21 >>
22 >> In the same price range, AMD offers Bulldozer X8 FX-8150 (125W)
23 >> 8-Core Socket AM3+, 3.6 GHz, 8Mb Cache, 32 nm ( CAD 220 , 2 in stock).
24 >>
25 >> How do you compare cores vs nm ?
26 >
27 > who cares?
28 >
29
30 You cannot really compare this. If you can use more cores, e.g. because
31 you have an embarrassingly parallel application, by all means, get it.
32 Otherwise you should probably care more about single core performance.
33
34 >> How far is cache size important ( 6 vs 8 MB )?
35 >
36 > depends on the architecture.
37 >
38
39 In short, for all three questions: Look at benchmarks and look at the
40 TDP ratings if that is important to you.
41
42 nm numbers don't tell you anything that can be directly translated into
43 performance or other qualities. They only allow educated guesses. If you
44 really want to delve so deep into chip design, you could as well look at
45 pipeline depths, cache associativity and such alike (not that you should).
46
47 Regards,
48 Florian Philipp

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