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> >>>> If gentoo became an *easy* distro like sickbayon or ubuntu.. I would |
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> >>>> stop using it. Seriously.. user friendly distros is not what I am |
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> >>>> looking for.. I am looking for a distro to have one fun and learn. |
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> >>> I second this sentiment. Since starting to use Gentoo in 2004, all |
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> >>> other distros pale in comparison. Yes, there have been a couple of |
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> >>> hurdles, but it was all learning. I view these, not as annoyances, but |
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> >>> challenges. I love what I have learned about my system with Gentoo and |
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> >>> there is *no* other distro that has a package management system that is |
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> >>> better than portage, IMHO. So, thanks from me to all the devs! :-) |
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> >> Thirded (smile). |
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> >> |
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> > |
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> > Fourth one here... |
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> > |
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> > Gentoo has been one of the most rewarding linux experiences that I've had in |
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> > years. The only thing that even comes close is LFS... but then upgrading it |
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> > is a nightmare. |
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> > |
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> |
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> I'd like to tell the previous four people to move on to meaningful |
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> challenges like reverse proxying HTTP to split media and application |
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> serving or db replication or ldap backended mail systems or hell |
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> anything other than installing a base system. :-) Come on, installing an |
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> OS shouldn't be complicated in this century. |
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> Given a choice I prefer my tools extremely powerful AND easy, but I'm a |
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> professional sys admin with a large pragmatic streak and a low tolerance |
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> for technology that makes me jump through hoops. This is coincidentally |
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> why Mysql continues to be used in a hundred time more places than |
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> Postgres. I find Gentoo to be both easy and powerful most of the time so |
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> I have few complaints. However his idea that installing an OS has to be |
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> some sort of trial by fire to prove your worth is wacky. |
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> I say bring on the easiness. Make a big fat button after the liveCD |
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> loads that says "Just install it for me in a nice default kinda way so I |
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> can start playing with this whole USE flag thing I've heard so much |
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> about" and be done with it. Yes, yes you can still choose to set things |
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> up yourself and frankly I still find command line fdisk to be much |
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> simpler to use than any other tool. After that we can start working on a |
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> big fat button that says "I handle all the USE flag stuff rather than |
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> having to figure out if equery, ufed, emerge, eix, qpkg, and whatnot |
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> tells you what you want to know". Wouldn't that be nice? |
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> Gentoo got lucky (or maybe I did) when it was the only distro I could |
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> get to install on a office server some idiot has spec'ed with a bleeding |
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> edge gaming motherboard that refused to boot any other Linux distro. I |
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> ran through the lengthy install because I was out of options and then |
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> found I liked the system. I like to think I've been an asset over the |
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> years for Gentoo (1500 helpful posts on the forum and counting), but how |
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> many busy professionals have taken a look at the install and decided |
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> "fsck that, I've got ninety other things I could be doing" and walked away?" |
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Great post, I couldn't agree more. |
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- Grant |
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