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Jerry McBride wrote: |
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> On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:13:59 pm Philip Webb wrote: |
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>> 070704 Colleen Beamer wrote: |
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>>> Danyelle Gragsone wrote: |
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>>>> If gentoo became an *easy* distro like sickbayon or ubuntu.. I would |
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>>>> stop using it. Seriously.. user friendly distros is not what I am |
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>>>> looking for.. I am looking for a distro to have one fun and learn. |
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>>> I second this sentiment. Since starting to use Gentoo in 2004, all |
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>>> other distros pale in comparison. Yes, there have been a couple of |
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>>> hurdles, but it was all learning. I view these, not as annoyances, but |
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>>> challenges. I love what I have learned about my system with Gentoo and |
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>>> there is *no* other distro that has a package management system that is |
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>>> better than portage, IMHO. So, thanks from me to all the devs! :-) |
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>> Thirded (smile). |
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> Fourth one here... |
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> Gentoo has been one of the most rewarding linux experiences that I've had in |
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> years. The only thing that even comes close is LFS... but then upgrading it |
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> is a nightmare. |
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I'd like to tell the previous four people to move on to meaningful |
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challenges like reverse proxying HTTP to split media and application |
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serving or db replication or ldap backended mail systems or hell |
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anything other than installing a base system. :-) Come on, installing an |
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OS shouldn't be complicated in this century. |
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Given a choice I prefer my tools extremely powerful AND easy, but I'm a |
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professional sys admin with a large pragmatic streak and a low tolerance |
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for technology that makes me jump through hoops. This is coincidentally |
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why Mysql continues to be used in a hundred time more places than |
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Postgres. I find Gentoo to be both easy and powerful most of the time so |
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I have few complaints. However his idea that installing an OS has to be |
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some sort of trial by fire to prove your worth is wacky. |
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I say bring on the easiness. Make a big fat button after the liveCD |
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loads that says "Just install it for me in a nice default kinda way so I |
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can start playing with this whole USE flag thing I've heard so much |
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about" and be done with it. Yes, yes you can still choose to set things |
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up yourself and frankly I still find command line fdisk to be much |
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simpler to use than any other tool. After that we can start working on a |
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big fat button that says "I handle all the USE flag stuff rather than |
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having to figure out if equery, ufed, emerge, eix, qpkg, and whatnot |
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tells you what you want to know". Wouldn't that be nice? |
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Gentoo got lucky (or maybe I did) when it was the only distro I could |
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get to install on a office server some idiot has spec'ed with a bleeding |
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edge gaming motherboard that refused to boot any other Linux distro. I |
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ran through the lengthy install because I was out of options and then |
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found I liked the system. I like to think I've been an asset over the |
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years for Gentoo (1500 helpful posts on the forum and counting), but how |
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many busy professionals have taken a look at the install and decided |
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"fsck that, I've got ninety other things I could be doing" and walked away?" |
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kashani, Gentoo user for five years and remembers when they added the *, |
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the bright green for new USE flags, and then sorted the active USE flags |
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first in the emerge output and still thinks the person(s) who came up |
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with those UI tweaks was a genius. |
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