Re: [gentoo-user] [getting on-topic I think] dial-up, switching isp's and other thoughts.

[Dale]

Alex Schuster wrote:
> Dale writes:
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>> kashani wrote:
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>>> Dale wrote:
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> [Google stores emails forever, reads them, may combine the data with your
> google searches, can create user profiles]
>

That may be true but it's not like I'm downloading child porn, planning 
a terrorist attack or something either.  I mean, NSA can read whatever 
they want, most likely even encrypted messages, and we would never even 
know about it. 

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>>>> But isn't this true of any ISP or email host?
>>>>
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> No!
>
> I guess about all of them have privacy statements that do not allow this. If
> this is even needed, I doubt that in my country this behaviour would be
> legal. As it would be illegal for my phone company to listen to my calls.
>

But they can.  Some people break the law.  I see telephone guys hook up 
to whatever line is available and make phone calls.  They used to do 
that a lot back in the old days.  They can also listen to conversations 
if someone is on the line.  Illegal, sure, stops them from doing it, no.

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>> But my point was, whoever owns the email server can read the emails.
>> Right?  If I used your service, would you be able to read my emails if
>> you chose to?  Not that you would but that you *could*.
>>
>
> Sure, they can. And telephone companies also could easily listen to your
> phone calls, but do you assume they do? And, if so, would you use a company
> who openly states that they will record your phone calls forever, listen to
> it, use whatever you say in them for whatever purpose they like?
>

I would assume they were just in case.  Don't go planning a bank 
robbery, murder, terror attack or something on a telephone.  It's just 
not real bright.

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>> I would assume if a email was encrypted that would be a different story.
>>
>
> Well, only if everyone who sends you emails does encrypt, too.
>
> And, still: From the moment on that you opened the gmail site in your
> konqueror or firefox, every google search that you ever did in that browser
> before now is known to google. Well, they knew them before of course, but
> they did not know yet who you are. Now they do.
>
> 	Wonko
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>

I have had the gmail account for years.  I got it back when you had to 
have a invite to even get one.  Of all the things for me to worry about, 
Google isn't even on the list yet.

Dale

:-)  :-)