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On Sat, Feb 10 2018, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 7:16 PM, allan gottlieb <gottlieb@×××.edu> wrote: |
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>> I have a question on this news item. |
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>> I use systemd (gnome3) on a gentoo stable system. |
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>> eix reports that sys-apps/systemd-236-r5 is installed |
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>> But |
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>> euse -I sysv-utils |
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>> reports |
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>> no matching entries found |
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>> Is something wrong? |
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>> I do *not* have |
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>> sys-apps/sysvinit, sys-apps/openrc, or net-misc/netifrc |
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>> in my world file. |
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>> However, the last two are installed. |
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> Interesting. Does /sbin/reboot exist? |
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gottlieb@E6430 ~ $ ls -l /sbin/reboot |
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lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Jan 28 13:08 /sbin/reboot -> ../bin/systemctl |
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> What does "qfile /sbin/reboot" return? |
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gottlieb@E6430 ~ $ qfile /sbin/reboot |
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sys-apps/systemd (/sbin/reboot) |
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> The only thing that is changing is a default - that flag was defaulted |
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> off before, and is defaulted on now. So, an emerge --changed-use -u |
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> world should reinstall systemd with this flag enabled, assuming you |
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> didn't manually disable it. |
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I have not dis- or en- abled the flag |
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> In any case, you can probably actually survive without poweroff, |
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> reboot, etc, assuming you shutdown using systemctl. Obviously some |
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> legacy scripts/programs/etc that are supposed to shut down your system |
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> might balk at the missing symlinks. All the use flag does is install |
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> compatibility symlinks to systemctl for these sysvinit programs and |
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> their manpages. |
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My poweroff sequence is to use the gnome icon to logoff |
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and then the gnome icon to poweroff |
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> Unless you have some package installed that explicitly depends on |
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> sysvinit or openrc you should be fine. Do you actually get any |
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> blockers/etc? |
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No blockers. I have two similar machines. Only problems are a |
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long-standing difficulty with one machine compiling chromium and a known |
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bug in compiling webkit-gtk-2.4.11-r200 on either machine. |
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> Ultimately it comes down to whether you care about the compatibility |
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> symlinks. It probably isn't a bad idea to have them though. Maybe |
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> some day you'll install a UPS and its shutdown scripts will just call |
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> shutdown/poweroff/etc and not work. Software that shuts down using |
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> either systemctl or dbus would be fine. |
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Since you lean toward having the symlinks, why is the new default for |
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the use flag on? Upstream? |
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Also why do I have the symlinks with the 236-r5 system, contracting the |
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news item. (This is true for both machines.) |
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Thanks again for all your help, |
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allan |
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