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On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org> wrote: |
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> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 09:02:24PM +0000, Wols Lists wrote |
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>> On 10/12/17 10:13, Alan Mackenzie wrote: |
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>>> I've no idea how good systemd is. It's not been through the normal |
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>>> process of choice and selection that other successful packages have. |
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>>> It was forced on people. But being forced to have a binary system log, |
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>>> being forced (so I have heard) to have an http server running, ...., |
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>>> doesn't make it an attractive package for me. |
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>> Oddly enough, although the details are different, that passage I've |
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>> quoted pretty accurately describes how I feel about Gnome ... :-) |
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> I can't find it right now on Google, but I vaguely remember that |
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> Lennart asked the Gnome people to make systemd a hard dependancy. Not |
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> much later logind, which is required by Gnome, picks up systemd as a |
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> hard dependancy. |
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It was in 2011. The rationale was to use hostnamectl and localectl via |
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the gnome gui apps that set the hostname and locale and to replace |
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consolekit with logind for gdm and gnome-session. (Ubuntu showed with |
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upstart and systemd-shim that you could do all three with a different |
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init system.) |