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From: hasufell <hasufell@g.o>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fwd:How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:15:23
Message-Id: 53075F65.8050505@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fwd:How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment? by Alan McKinnon
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4 Alan McKinnon:
5 > On 20/02/2014 22:41, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
6 >> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:52:07PM +0400, Andrew Savchenko
7 >> wrote:
8 >>
9 >>> And this point is one of the highest security benefits in real
10 >>> world: one have non-standard binaries, not available in the
11 >>> wild. Most exploits will fail on such binaries even if
12 >>> vulnerability is still there.
13 >>
14 >> While excluding few security issues by compiling less code is
15 >> possible, believing that "non-standard binaries" (in the sense of
16 >> "compiled for with local compilation flags") gives more security
17 >> is a dangerous dream.
18 >>
19 >
20 >
21 > +1
22 >
23 > "non-standard binaries" is really just a special form of security
24 > by obscurity.
25
26 So you are saying compiling a minimal kernel to minimize exposure to
27 subsystem bugs is only obscurity? (I really wonder what Greg would say
28 to this)
29
30 The argument that this particular setup may be less tested is a valid
31 one. But less tested also means less commonly known exploits and
32 testing these setups is a win-win for users and upstream.
33
34 Whether you like it or not... whenever you install software on a
35 server, you become a tester at the same point.
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