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On 6 August 2015 at 09:50, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> On 06/08/2015 03:27, James wrote: |
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> > OK so yes I know overlays in the wild can be disastrous. |
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> > Reading the devmanual while parsing through various ebuilds |
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> > both portage and in the wild, does make for some interesting |
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> > reading:: ymmv. |
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> > I'm not sure my overlay (kung_fu) is complete. |
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> > 'layman -L' lists reasonably qualified overlay sites; but you |
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> > have to add them to search out their content directly. |
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> > 'eix -R <keywordname> ' will search far and wide for a given |
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> > overlay; like the distributed database 'cassandra. |
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> > Some googling suggest that zugaina contains a master list of overlays? |
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> > (not sure how true this is). |
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> > I'm not sure if 'eix -R' or 'browsing zugaina' provides the widest |
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> possible |
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> > list of (mostly safe) overlay sites. |
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> > Last, googling for the name + ebuild or overlay can find packages, |
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> > but if the archive (git etc) is not listed with a layman -L:: be |
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> > very cautious.... audit the details of the overlay. |
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> > Specifically, on dev-db/cassandara I find 2.1.3 and 2.12 |
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> > ([5] "spike-community-overlay" layman/spike-community-overlay) |
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> > but the cassandra.apache.org site shows 2.1.8 and 2.20 as the |
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> > stable and testing downloads currently available. So is it safe |
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> > to use the "spike-community" overlay as a basis to update the cassandra |
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> > ebuild I have available? |
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> > In general, is there a list (even a private list) of know good/bad |
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> > actors on these overlay sites? |
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> > Any further tidbits on searching out and qualifying overlays (yes |
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> > I know only a full code audit is actually safe) that folks use |
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> > or would suggest would be keen. I did see some gentoo wiki pages on the |
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> > subject but they seem terse or dated. |
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> To find Joe Random Hacker's overlay and see what's in it, I tend to |
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> browse zugaina. Coverage is decent and most stuff from most folks active |
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> in the Gentoo ecosystem is there. |
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> If an overlay is not listed on zugaina, these days it tends to be on |
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> github or similar. I usually just do a git checkout and cast my own |
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> eyeballs over the ebuilds. If I'm happy, import into layman (I think |
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> it's -o) with the xml file that should be provided |
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> Thus far I've had good success. As with everything else in Gentoo it's |
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> buyer beware, and train your eyeballs and brain beforehand. There does |
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> not seem to be an easy shortcuts. |
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> -- |
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> Alan McKinnon |
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> alan.mckinnon@×××××.com |
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I would concur with Alan. The zugaina site is a very valuable resource. |
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I happen to have an overlay in Layman and I have contacted Ycarus (who runs |
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the zugaina site) when |
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one of my packages wasn't sync'd with Layman. Apparently his site pulls in |
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the overlays on an automated basis |
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(cron job style). It is pretty quick to update/stay in sync though. |
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I tend to look out for "quality" (or lack of) 3rd-party ebuilds by running |
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repoman over them. "Stale Overlays" are pretty |
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easy to spot as well... :-) |
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All the best, |
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Robert |
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