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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:12:27
Message-Id: 10900425.I6QO6g8cIc@dell_xps
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!! by R0b0t1
On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 16:43:49 R0b0t1 wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com> wrote: > > On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 14:22:06 R0b0t1 wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com> wrote: > >> > OK, I know life moves on, but this move has been a retrograde step for > >> > me. > >> > > >> > My konqueror:5 recently updated seems to have a number of problems and > >> > > >> > <aheam!> features I am not happy with. Grateful for any pointers to > >> > address these. In no particular order. > >> > > >> > 1. The Bookmarks Toolbar will *always* show up when launching > >> > Konqueror. > >> > I > >> > deselect Settings/Toolbars Shown/Bookmark Toolbar and relaunch the > >> > application, only to find out my deselection will not stick. > >> > > >> > 2. The menu shows no icons, only text; buttons like open new tab/close > >> > current tab show no icons, making difficult to guess. > >> > > >> > 3. When used as a file manager Konqueror will only open directories or > >> > files if I double click on them. I have set up in systemsettings5 > >> > Hardware/Input Devices/Mouse/Single click to open files and folders. > >> > Konqueror ignores it. > >> > > >> > 4. All my years of Bookmarks of Konqueror:4 gone. I had to import them > >> > manually. > >> > > >> > 5. Network places, gone. > >> > > >> > 6. Left hand Panels with Places/Devices/Folders ain't thaa'r. > >> > > >> > 7. Konqueror Introduction page, no icons; unless I hover over them, > >> > hyperlinked titles shown in dark grey over a blue background. I know > >> > my > >> > eye sight is not as good as it used to be, but this is really akin to > >> > usability sabotage. > >> > > >> > The are probably more problems I have not captured above, but my > >> > experience of konqueror:5 is that of crippleware. I don't know if this > >> > has anything to do with it, I am not running konqueror on a full plasma > >> > desktop, but as a stand alone application. Have you observed similar? > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Regards, > >> > Mick > >> > >> You should take your complaints to the project's bug tracker. I know > >> they will take number 7 very seriously, and seeing as you've used the > >> project for an appreciable amount of time they will likely consider > >> most of your other issues. > >> > >> At the very least they would probably tell you how to do what you > >> don't know how to do. If they can't insist that there has been a > >> regression. > > > > Thanks R0b0t1, I don't want to darken their doorstep of devs with issues > > which appear isolated to my systems. Other M/L participants many of whom > > are running the full Plasma desktop, do not seem to have such problems. > > So, I'm guessing I must be missing some package or other to complement > > the required functionality. > > I have to disagree with you here. There is no way I can see the > developers responding negatively, though time might be short for new > (or "reintroduced") features. I feel it necessary to mention that > seventh item again, which they will take very seriously. > > > I'm still on kmail:4 and all menu icons are shown and functionality is not > > crippled in any way. I fear what might happen when I eventually have to > > install kmail:5. > > I feel this is also something you should express to the developers, > but admittedly I don't know the best place. Perhaps a mailing list. I > understand there is a time investment but if you have any to spare it > will almost assuredly spark a constructive conversation.
R0b0t1's comments prompted me to search in Konqueror's bug reports to see if I am alone in the above complains. It seems not, with respect to some of them. What Alan said was correct, there is only one developer trying to keep the boat afloat. A lot of the code working fine on KDE-4 has not been ported to Plasma and unless man power increases it is unlikely features like the missing sidebar/panel will be reinstated: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373824 Furthermore, the current maintainer only intends to maintain the Konqueror code as a khtml/webkit browser, not a file manager. For that he refers all comers to Dolphin. Oh well, if only I could code ... ;-) -- Regards, Mick

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