Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!

[Mick]

On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 16:43:49 R0b0t1 wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 14:22:06 R0b0t1 wrote:
> >> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com> wrote:
> >> > OK, I know life moves on, but this move has been a retrograde step for
> >> > me.
> >> >
> >> >  My konqueror:5 recently updated seems to have a number of problems and
> >> >
> >> > <aheam!> features I am not happy with.  Grateful for any pointers to
> >> > address these.  In no particular order.
> >> >
> >> > 1. The Bookmarks Toolbar will *always* show up when launching
> >> > Konqueror.
> >> > I
> >> > deselect Settings/Toolbars Shown/Bookmark Toolbar and relaunch the
> >> > application, only to find out my deselection will not stick.
> >> >
> >> > 2. The menu shows no icons, only text; buttons like open new tab/close
> >> > current tab show no icons, making difficult to guess.
> >> >
> >> > 3. When used as a file manager Konqueror will only open directories or
> >> > files if I double click on them.  I have set up in systemsettings5
> >> > Hardware/Input Devices/Mouse/Single click to open files and folders.
> >> > Konqueror ignores it.
> >> >
> >> > 4. All my years of Bookmarks of Konqueror:4 gone.  I had to import them
> >> > manually.
> >> >
> >> > 5. Network places, gone.
> >> >
> >> > 6. Left hand Panels with Places/Devices/Folders ain't thaa'r.
> >> >
> >> > 7. Konqueror Introduction page, no icons; unless I hover over them,
> >> > hyperlinked titles shown in dark grey over a blue background.  I know
> >> > my
> >> > eye sight is not as good as it used to be, but this is really akin to
> >> > usability sabotage.
> >> >
> >> > The are probably more problems I have not captured above, but my
> >> > experience of konqueror:5 is that of crippleware.  I don't know if this
> >> > has anything to do with it, I am not running konqueror on a full plasma
> >> > desktop, but as a stand alone application.  Have you observed similar?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Mick
> >>
> >> You should take your complaints to the project's bug tracker. I know
> >> they will take number 7 very seriously, and seeing as you've used the
> >> project for an appreciable amount of time they will likely consider
> >> most of your other issues.
> >>
> >> At the very least they would probably tell you how to do what you
> >> don't know how to do. If they can't insist that there has been a
> >> regression.
> >
> > Thanks R0b0t1, I don't want to darken their doorstep of devs with issues
> > which appear isolated to my systems.  Other M/L participants many of whom
> > are running the full Plasma desktop, do not seem to have such problems.
> > So, I'm guessing I must be missing some package or other to complement
> > the required functionality.
>
> I have to disagree with you here. There is no way I can see the
> developers responding negatively, though time might be short for new
> (or "reintroduced") features. I feel it necessary to mention that
> seventh item again, which they will take very seriously.
>
> > I'm still on kmail:4 and all menu icons are shown and functionality is not
> > crippled in any way.  I fear what might happen when I eventually have to
> > install kmail:5.
>
> I feel this is also something you should express to the developers,
> but admittedly I don't know the best place. Perhaps a mailing list. I
> understand there is a time investment but if you have any to spare it
> will almost assuredly spark a constructive conversation.

R0b0t1's comments prompted me to search in Konqueror's bug reports to see if I 
am alone in the above complains.  It seems not, with respect to some of them.

What Alan said was correct, there is only one developer trying to keep the 
boat afloat.  A lot of the code working fine on KDE-4 has not been ported to 
Plasma and unless man power increases it is unlikely features like the missing 
sidebar/panel will be reinstated:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373824

Furthermore, the current maintainer only intends to maintain the Konqueror 
code as a khtml/webkit browser, not a file manager.  For that he refers all 
comers to Dolphin.

Oh well, if only I could code ...  ;-)

-- 
Regards,
Mick