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On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Taiidan@×××.com <Taiidan@×××.com> wrote: |
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> On 03/18/2018 05:33 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: |
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>> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Taiidan@×××.com <Taiidan@×××.com> wrote: |
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>>> Everyone please remember this is simply an exploit to obtain data off of |
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>>> AMD's version of ME which is a DRM mechanism added for hollywood and it |
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>>> requires physical access to reprogram the firmware thus this exploit has |
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>>> zero impact on anyone who doesn't profit off of DRM. |
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>> Except if it's anything like the Intel ME exploit, physical access can |
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>> be faked using a compromized USB device. |
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> You mean the skylake debug port? |
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>>> |
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>>> ME/PSP are evil - don't buy computers that have them - you have choices! |
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>> No we don't. |
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> Yes we do. |
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> TALOS 2? g505s laptop? kgpe-d16? novena? |
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> I play new games at max settings on a pre-PSP AMD system KGPE-D16 where I |
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> have installed a libre firmware for the board and the BMC via the recent |
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> OpenBMC port (the facebook version of OpenBMC....less features than the IBM |
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> version but still quite nice) |
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> The TALOS 2 costs less than a brand new xeon system with similar performance |
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> and it has better features such as IBM's OpenBMC, PCI-e 4.0, SMT4 etc. |
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> The stars have aligned and given us a libre firmware server/workstation that |
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> is brand new and very very fast. |
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The x86 parts are slowly going out of stock to the point where they |
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are expensive *when* I have found them. The TALOS 2 is the cheapest |
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POWER system available, but is still many thousands of dollars more |
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than a consumer computer (though much higher performance). ARM based |
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computers are not comparable in performance to common consumer |
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systems. Self hosting on a performant ARM processor is not a |
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reasonable proposition. High dollar ARM servers have closed |
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motherboard firmware. |
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Sure, if you devote all of a good salary's disposable income to a |
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mostly open hardware computer you can buy one. Most people don't make |
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that much. The bigger issue than that is all main manufacturers do not |
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want to remove their backdoors, and so ever so slowly, there will come |
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to be absolutely no choice at all, even for inordinate amounts of |
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money. |