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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:11:26
Message-Id: CA+czFiAHr7RAtd6Y0Xu-wrSs-u_hrt1E_nSWiCMAO4c1xobrEw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ? by Nikos Chantziaras
1 On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > On 30/07/12 07:28, Michael Mol wrote:
3 >>
4 >> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.com>
5 >> wrote:
6 >>>
7 >>> On 30/07/12 06:08, Michael Mol wrote:
8 >>>>
9 >>>>
10 >>>> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.com>
11 >>>> wrote:
12 >>>>>
13 >>>>>
14 >>>>> On 30/07/12 05:23, Philip Webb wrote:
15 >>>>>>
16 >>>>>>
17 >>>>>> i5-2550K & FX-4100 both use 95 W
18 >>>>>> (some of the more costly AMDs use 125 W ).
19 >>>>>
20 >>>>>
21 >>>>>
22 >>>>>
23 >>>>> Note that power savings are not important if you're not using a laptop.
24 >>>>> CPU
25 >>>>> power savings on a desktop don't translate to any relevant amount of
26 >>>>> money
27 >>>>> on your electricity bills. This is because neither of those CPUs
28 >>>>> really
29 >>>>> use
30 >>>>> 95W. That's just the thermal upper limit.
31 >>>>
32 >>>>
33 >>>>
34 >>>> To be fair, power savings are relevant if you're concerned about your
35 >>>> electric bill, or if you're concerned about heat management in your
36 >>>> system.
37 >>>>
38 >>>> Consider my dual E5345...leaving that on 24x7 appears to cost me about
39 >>>> 90USD/mo.
40 >>>
41 >>>
42 >>>
43 >>> CPU power savings will transform that into a 89.9USD/mo ;-) That's what
44 >>> I
45 >>> mean. It's not worth much. It helps quite a bit with laptop battery
46 >>> life.
47 >>> But for desktops, it doesn't do anything too useful.
48 >>
49 >>
50 >> If you really want the hard numbers, check out some place like Tom's
51 >> Hardware or Phoronix. I forget which does the power consumption
52 >> measurements. At some of the hardware review blogs, you can get
53 >> numbers on idle vs full-load power consumption, as measured at the
54 >> wall. The difference truly is striking.
55 >
56 >
57 > When you have full load, the CPU won't clock down. So nothing saved there.
58
59 When you're considering full load, the TDP becomes a useful estimation
60 of relative power consumption between different processors.
61
62 > If you don't have full load, the clock-down doesn't save much compared to
63 > max clocks while idle.
64
65 This is where you're wrong.
66
67 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-benchmark-core-i7-3770k,3181-23.html
68
69 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-power-consumption-efficiency,3060-11.html
70
71 --
72 :wq

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[gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ? James <wireless@×××××××××××.com>
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