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From: Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:18:59
Message-Id: jv58s9$47u$1@dough.gmane.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ? by Michael Mol
1 On 30/07/12 07:28, Michael Mol wrote:
2 > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >> On 30/07/12 06:08, Michael Mol wrote:
4 >>>
5 >>> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.com>
6 >>> wrote:
7 >>>>
8 >>>> On 30/07/12 05:23, Philip Webb wrote:
9 >>>>>
10 >>>>> i5-2550K & FX-4100 both use 95 W
11 >>>>> (some of the more costly AMDs use 125 W ).
12 >>>>
13 >>>>
14 >>>>
15 >>>> Note that power savings are not important if you're not using a laptop.
16 >>>> CPU
17 >>>> power savings on a desktop don't translate to any relevant amount of
18 >>>> money
19 >>>> on your electricity bills. This is because neither of those CPUs really
20 >>>> use
21 >>>> 95W. That's just the thermal upper limit.
22 >>>
23 >>>
24 >>> To be fair, power savings are relevant if you're concerned about your
25 >>> electric bill, or if you're concerned about heat management in your
26 >>> system.
27 >>>
28 >>> Consider my dual E5345...leaving that on 24x7 appears to cost me about
29 >>> 90USD/mo.
30 >>
31 >>
32 >> CPU power savings will transform that into a 89.9USD/mo ;-) That's what I
33 >> mean. It's not worth much. It helps quite a bit with laptop battery life.
34 >> But for desktops, it doesn't do anything too useful.
35 >
36 > If you really want the hard numbers, check out some place like Tom's
37 > Hardware or Phoronix. I forget which does the power consumption
38 > measurements. At some of the hardware review blogs, you can get
39 > numbers on idle vs full-load power consumption, as measured at the
40 > wall. The difference truly is striking.
41
42 When you have full load, the CPU won't clock down. So nothing saved
43 there. If you don't have full load, the clock-down doesn't save much
44 compared to max clocks while idle.
45
46 I hope you're getting the logic here :-)

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