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On Saturday, 6 August 2022 12:08:30 BST Dale wrote: |
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> Dale wrote: |
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> > Michael wrote: |
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> >> On Saturday, 6 August 2022 07:07:26 BST Dale wrote: |
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> >>> Well, that settles that then. I guess it will be Surfshark. Pretty |
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> >>> sure it is in the Netherlands but may be wrong on country. I just |
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> >>> recall it being outside US jurisdiction. I also read they have been |
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> >>> audited by independent people to ensure they have no logs even if asked. |
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> >> |
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> >> Surfshark gets good reviews and it offers the wireguard protocol with the |
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> >> ChaCha20 cipher for better encryption and performance. However, the |
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> >> Netherlands is part of the EU and 14 eyes, so I would think similar state |
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> >> powers exist to access your private communications and the ISPs would |
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> >> have no way of refusing and staying in business. Surfshark offers a |
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> >> warrant canary, but it looks more like a marketing statement to me when |
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> >> you compare it to something like the Qubes digitally signed canaries. |
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> > I forgot about the 14 eyes thing. Do you know of one outside that that |
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> > is good? The bad thing about most, they are pricey if done by the month |
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> > for testing. You only get a good deal if you subscribe for a year or |
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> > even two years. I don't want to subscribe and then find out it is a bad |
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> > one. |
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> > |
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> > Dale |
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> > :-) :-) |
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> I did a quick google search and Surfshark is based in British Virgin |
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> Islands and is outside the eyes countries. I was thinking it was |
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> Netherlands but wasn't sure. |
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You were thinking correctly at the start. Surfshark is located in the |
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Netherlands since 2018 and has been bought out by Nord Security, who owns |
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NordVPN. |
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> When I searched for VPN outside 14 eyes |
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> country, Surfshark is highly rated. Depending on the site, it's in the |
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> top few each time. |
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> https://earthweb.com/vpn-outside-14-eyes/ |
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> https://www.privateproxyguide.com/best-vpn-outside-14-eyes/ |
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> Unless there is some good reason to avoid, still thinking of using it. |
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The more you try to escape the 14 eyes Big Brother, the closer you may fall |
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into the hands of various authoritarian regimes. LOL! Even VPNs like NordVPN |
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which operates within the jurisdiction of Panama (let's not forget it is |
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Langley's doorstep), it also has offices in the UK, Netherlands and Lithuania. |
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I wonder why . . . |
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Total privacy on the Internet is improbable. If your only concern is to |
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retain your privacy from your ISP with regards to your Internet connections, |
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then most/any VPN service will offer this benefit by obfuscating your IP |
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address. Your browsing patterns, browser User Agent, addons and umpteen other |
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OS and application fingerprints won't be obfuscated beyond the VPN server. |
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Therefore your identity can only be protected so much and no more. |
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