Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

[Al]

Hi Alex,

>
> Hmm, ist this really true? We have good bandwith nowadays, even Dale has

Take the previous posting of Albert Hopkins as best prove of that:

<quote>
     * End the noise here.
</quote>

So why does he read the thread, if he considers as noise? He could
very simply ignore it using IMAP or NNTP. Obviously he has
difficulties to handle the mailing list in the way you descibe below.

I say it again, from my point of view such a mentality, pressing
people to end a discussion, which has it's own thread, which is not
evil in any way, which is interesting, is the direct result from
prefering a mailing list over NNTP. That has a negative influence to
activy and communication. People turn to IRC because of such social
pressure.

> DSL now, so I don't care about the extra traffic this mailing list
> creates. When it's too much to read, or threads do not interest me, I mark

Confirmed, the extra traffic isn't any problem at all today. Facebook
and Youtube prove that. It is the feelings.

>
> What I am missing is more mailing lists. The gentoo-performance list hast
> just been closed due to too few traffic A pity, because now all those
> topics will show up here instead. Which would, to be true, not change a
> thing, because noone used gentoo-performance, but in an ideal world I
> think people would. But this is not an ideal world.

Good example. I knew that from an NNTP based community two years ago.
There were, probably there are a lot of living lists on that server.
Once subcribed to the server it is absolutely easy to subscribe to a
second list or third list. You get them all presented directly by your
reader.

>
> No, but if people prefer the forums, even if there are better things, let
> them, you won't change their habits.

Right, we can't change them, but we can't influence them by what we
declare as official channels.

Have you considered, that people may be excluded from the Gentoo
community that are used to NNTP. Probable people with good skills in
that special group?

In the ideal world all those different channels would mirror the same
database. But that would require some technological progress to
synchronize without breaking the threads.

Al